From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f79bb,15b707eaa08613df X-Google-Attributes: gidf79bb,public X-Google-Thread: f5d71,15b707eaa08613df X-Google-Attributes: gidf5d71,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,c85896ef99da8455 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,15b707eaa08613df X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,15b707eaa08613df X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,15b707eaa08613df X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 13273f,c85896ef99da8455 X-Google-Attributes: gid13273f,public From: ell@access2.digex.net (Ell) Subject: Re: Schizophrenic Robert Martin exposed at http://www.netscum.net/martinr0.html Date: 1997/06/17 Message-ID: <5o4uag$g5j$1@news2.digex.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 248966162 Followup-To: comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.java,comp.lang.sather,comp.lang.eiffel,alt.flame.robert-martin Organization: The Universe Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.java,comp.lang.sather,comp.lang.eiffel,alt.flame.robert-martin Date: 1997-06-17T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Billy Chambless (billy@cast.msstate.edu) wrote: : In article <5o3rm9$i0r$1@news2.digex.net>, ell@access2.digex.net (Ell) writes: : : >I am not going to get in a pissing match with Mssr. Roddey. Bottom line : >Roddey, either you support right wing pragmatist software engineering or : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : >you don't. : Is that anything like the decadent, counterrevolutionary particle physics : that ol' Joe Stalin was so opposed to? Stalin opposed some pragmatists, but in my opinion he was a right wing pragmatist himself, and in another way so was Krushev. Contact me for details. : Should we appoint a Political Officer to each development group to make : sure that all our programming practices are ideologically pure? It's not about being ideologically pure, but of following proven practices of leading development with use case analysis, graphical modelling, and a holistic approach. The right wing pragmatists attempt to take us away from these things that most software experts find that really work to speed development, lessen costs, and ease complexity. In reality underlying and in spite of all of their spiel they mainly promote hacking not good engineering. Elliott