From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10f6aa,cc68a4658b442972,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10f6aa,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 114917,cc68a4658b442972,start X-Google-Attributes: gid114917,public From: z007400b@bcfreenet.seflin.org (Ralph Silverman) Subject: Re: Software Engineering is not a hoax... Date: 1997/06/12 Message-ID: <5nplh1$276@nntp.seflin.org>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 247963959 References: <5lsjb3$bqc@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> <33859489.7FB8@spam.inno Organization: SEFLIN Free-Net Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.asm.x86,comp.os.msdos.programmer Date: 1997-06-12T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: con.com> <3385B67B.1439@msim.co.uk.spamstop> <01bc7746$c7475c50$fc00af88@godiva> Organization: SEFLIN Free-Net - Broward Distribution: Keith Shillington (keith@sd.aonix.com) wrote: : Ahem. Amen. Agreed. : In fact, I'd swing out onto the thin ice on the skinny branches and say : that to "code" more than that breeches the boundaries between software : engineering and, well, let's not mince terms here, hacking. And, home is a : great place to hack. I don't want to knock hacking. I love to hack. : There's something wonderful about tinkering, like writing HTML in VI; like : counting the number of clock cycles in a loop to see if some blindingly : fast operation can be made faster; not because it needs to be, but because : it can be. This, on the other hand, tends to be inappropriate in an : environment where the software you (I, we) are writing ultimately will wind : up on someone elses plate to be maintained. : Robert Dewar pontificated: : | William said: : | : | <> : | : | I can only understand this if you replace "writing software" with : | "coding". To me documentation, design, version control, project : management, : | bug reports etc etc are an *integral part* of what writing software is : | all about. what is hacking : just software engineering without a license ? -- Ralph Silverman z007400b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us