From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: kaz@vision.crest.nt.com (Kaz Kylheku) Subject: Re: Any research putting c above ada? Date: 1997/05/08 Message-ID: <5ktej4$spb@bcrkh13.bnr.ca>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 240287110 References: <3370B657.41C6@cca.rockwell.com> <48F4E31EB483FF64.2D875D4B19B8D13D.B14A888E6AC55544@library-proxy.airnews.net> <3371EDD8.167E@cca.rockwell.com> Organization: Prism Systems Inc. Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-05-08T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <3371EDD8.167E@cca.rockwell.com>, Roy Grimm wrote: >Kevin Cline wrote: >> >> Roy Grimm wrote: >> >Fair enough. I'd agree in principle with what you are getting at in >> >reference to "grade-grubbers". There are slackers out there just >> >interested in doing enough to get by. However, too many people >> >automatically associate that attitude with bad grades. >> >> Let me make myself perfectly clear. I believe there is little correlation >> between GPA and the ability to do software development. However, even the >> most open-minded organization is going to deselect candidates with GPA's >> below some minimum standard. > >I would agree 100% with that. My resume was summarily rejected at >several companies because of an arbitrary GPA minimum that I didn't >meet. That shows you didn't do your best in meeting the requirements of the school you attended. Not knowing anything about you beyond a mere number, it's not surprising that the employer might suspect that you could approach the workplace with the same attitude. What the employer does not know is that the school you went to rewarded mere scholastic aptitude, as is evident from your descriptions. Companies that request university transcripts are extremely annoying to say the least. :) >> > I've never >> >gotten really good grades in any of the classwork I've done and yet I've >> >probably gotten more out of the classes than the average person. >> >> That's exactly what I meant to say. I don't want to hire people whose sole >> goal in attending is to get an A on their transcript. > >I know far too many people like that. I wouldn't want to work with >them. I know two brillant fellows who consistently got straight A's in school. I was enrolled in a Complex Variables course with one of them; he got 98% in it, I got 58. I'd work with him any day. He is a very competent software designer and implementor. Naturally, he went on to grad school. Another such ``genius'' I know started a successful software company, and is now working on his Ph. D. in computer science. He wrote a working Pascal compiler while still in 11th grade of highschool. Both very nice fellows, lacking any semblance of conceit. In all social interaction, I have been treated by them as equal despite my dim wit. In fact, I correspond regularly with one of them. I've never envied nor resented people who got the grades. Good for them!