From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: jmartin@cs.ucla.edu (Jay Martin) Subject: Re: Any research putting c above ada? Date: 1997/05/08 Message-ID: <5kr81m$e50@uni.library.ucla.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 240167819 References: <5ih6i9$oct$1@waldorf.csc.calpoly.edu> <336DF13F.41C6@cca.rockwell.com> <5kpgfu$ju4@uni.library.ucla.edu> <5kqmq9$4n4@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-05-08T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: kaz@vision.crest.nt.com (Kaz Kylheku) writes: >In article <5kpgfu$ju4@uni.library.ucla.edu>, >Jay Martin wrote: >>I think the problem is that Computer Science is ignoring Software >>Engineering and thus there are not enough (or zero) slots at CS >>departments to hire such faculity. The programs fall apart because >That generalization is false. The school that I attended had excellent liasons >between industry and the CS department, and a thriving ``co-op'' program, as >well as a mandatory software engineering course and eight month long team >project. >>the academics don't give a f*ck about software . Thus, until CS >Again, you are generalizing from a small sample to the larger population. Unfortunately I believe the small sample I am talking about is the top rated Computer Science programs. Thus, the most influential departments are the most rotten with respect to software and have basically declared the subject as unworthy of study. Since they all agree... they must be right. I suspect your CS dept is way down the rankings list, if it is actually concerned about SE education. Jay.