From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, MSGID_RANDY,REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: lga@sma.ch (Laurent Gasser) Subject: Student responsability (Was: Any research putting c above ada?) Date: 1997/05/03 Message-ID: <5kfdhi$d2m$1@dbs1.sma.ch>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 239100957 Distribution: world References: Organization: Swiss Meteorological Institute Reply-To: lga@sma.ch Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-05-03T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article , eachus@spectre.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) writes: > In article <5k88f8$387@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> kaz@vision.crest.nt.com (Kaz Kylheku) writes: > > > Ah. The thing is, I thought that all good computer science > > programs included software engineering as part of the curriculum, > > and I always saw them as inseparable. I realize that this is not > > the case in every institution. > > But in reality it is the responsibility of the students to get the > knowledge that they need. Professors shouldn't put the responsability onto students' shoulders. Students go to universities to be taught elements of what will be necessary in their future carreer. It is naive to belive that a student (by definition without experience) is able to reasonably elect what will proves to be useful in the long term. Students do not even know the possible applications of a topic before they have learned it! I know, I was one... -- Laurent Gasser (lga@sma.ch) Computers do not solve problems, they execute solutions.