From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: afn03257@freenet2.afn.org (Daniel P Hudson) Subject: Re: Any research putting c above ada? Date: 1997/04/17 Message-ID: <5j414n$dv4@huron.eel.ufl.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 235474802 References: <5ih6i9$oct$1@waldorf.csc.calpoly.edu> <5j078b$b25$1@NNTP.MsState.Edu> Organization: I hate green eggs and SPAM Reply-To: afn03257@stuff.afn.org "Dan" Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.ada NNTP-Posting-User: afn03257 Date: 1997-04-17T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Peter Amey wrote: >On 15 Apr 1997, Tom White wrote: >> I remember a Turing Award Lecture by C.A.R. Hoare from the early >> eighties (dig through some Journals of the ACM). Hoare was not >> an Ada booster; he was concerned about the complexity of Ada from >> both the application programmer's and compiler implementor's >> perspectives. [SNIP] >A quote from this 1980 lecture includes the following: [SNIP] Jeez, he had to go back 17 years to find something wrong with Ada. You know what 17 years does to a language? That's 2 years before the ANSI X3J11 sub-commitee for C was even formed. We could kill the C that was used back then. But who cares what the problems with Ada, assuming this was actually a problem, or C were back then, they are long gone by now. Perhaps you would like to suffer through a list of problems with C from 1980 but I wouldn't. Why don't you try keeping the factual criticisms within at least this decade if not the past couple of years.