From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,37b5f16b9be86fec X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: fjh@murlibobo.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fergus Henderson) Subject: Re: ada -> C translator Date: 1997/04/10 Message-ID: <5ijplf$c58@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 232226734 References: <33436B29.41C6@sema-grenoble.fr> <5i243c$i1h@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> <5i4jok$qiq@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> <5i9r5t$nb6@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> <5idcjq$8lh@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> <5ifh5a$k5c@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> <5igd1f$4fd@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Organization: Comp Sci, University of Melbourne Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-04-10T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes: >Fergus said > ><something that could be validated.>> > >Oh dear! I thought that at this stage there was *no one* left who thought >that validated meant usable -- oh well. I don't think validated necessarily means usable, but validatation does indicate that something is not a small subset. I had in mind something that was usable as well as validatable. >I am giving up on trying to convince you since I don't think you have a >sufficient frame of reference. If you want to prove me wrong, go ahead >and translate a decent sized Ada program which uses the features of the >language, including those in Annexes A-C reasonabley extensively, into >the kind of C, and write the runtime that goes with it. Does using someone else's Ada -> JVM and JVM -> C compilers count? Do consider the AdaMagic (or is it AppletMagic?) Ada to JVM compiler to be a toy? Do you consider it to be usable? When I originally wrote if you want efficiency, you may need to use machine-dependent code. However, you can get this without sacrificing portability if you keep the less efficient but portable C code as a fallback. I did not expect this to be a controversial statement. -- Fergus Henderson | "I have always known that the pursuit WWW: | of excellence is a lethal habit" PGP: finger fjh@128.250.37.3 | -- the last words of T. S. Garp.