From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,a48e5b99425d742a X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,a48e5b99425d742a X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,a48e5b99425d742a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 107d55,a48e5b99425d742a X-Google-Attributes: gid107d55,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,5da92b52f6784b63 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: ffc1e,a48e5b99425d742a X-Google-Attributes: gidffc1e,public From: jws@tiac.net (Jeffrey W. Stulin) Subject: Re: Papers on the Ariane-5 crash and Design by Contract Date: 1997/03/19 Message-ID: <5gp7dm$2sd@news-central.tiac.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 226760850 References: <332B5495.167EB0E7@eiffel.com> <332D113B.4A64@calfp.co.uk> <5gjoel$jre$1@quasar.dimensional.com> <332EDBBE.4066@lmtas.lmco.com> <5gp49g$p7p$1@news.kersur.net> Organization: CSCI Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.programming.threads,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.java.tech Date: 1997-03-19T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Eric If languages don't matter then why don't we write all programs in binary? Jeff Stulin In article <5gp49g$p7p$1@news.kersur.net>, boyd@interdim.com says... > >Jon S Anthony wrote: >> >> And this is not the sort of thing that simple pre and post >> conditions is going to help you with. It's disingenuous to say >> otherwise. In fact, while this paper is fairly good in its analysis, >> it is extremely poor in its conclusion. Here's the relevant bit: >> >> "Does this mean that the crash would automatically have been avoided >> had the mission used a language and method supporting built-in >> assertions and Design by Contract? Although it is always risky to >> draw such after-the-fact conclusions, the answer is probably yes:" > >"There never has been, nor will there ever be a language in which it is the >least bit difficult to write bad code." > >I'm quoting someone...but don't know who. > >The point is the language doesn't matter...anybody can write bad code in any >language. >--------------------------------+-------------------------------------------- -- >Eric Boyd (TSMA) | "It's easier to ask for >InterDimensions Corp. | forgiveness than for permission." >25 Ellery St. | >Cambridge Ma, 02138 | "640K ought to be enough for anybody." >617-661-4200 | -- Bill Gates, 1981 > | >boyd@interdim.com |