From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_WORDY, INVALID_MSGID,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,e01bd86884246855 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,fb1663c3ca80b502 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Ken Garlington" Subject: Re: Interresting thread in comp.lang.eiffel Date: 2000/07/19 Message-ID: <5f8d5.10850$zW2.181285@news.flash.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 648031796 References: <8ipvnj$inc$1@wanadoo.fr> <8j67p8$afd$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <395886DA.CCE008D2@deepthought.com.au> <3958B07B.18A5BB8C@acm.com> <395A0ECA.940560D1@acm.com> <8jd4bb$na7$1@toralf.uib.no> <8jfabb$1d8$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8jhq0m$30u5$1@toralf.uib.no> <8jt4j7$19hpk$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> <3963CDDE.3E8FB644@earthlink.net> <3963DEBF.79C40BF1@eiffel.com> <2LS85.6100$7%3.493920@news.flash.net> <8k5aru$1odtq$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> <8k8pk2$20cab$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> <_dS95.9945$7%3.666180@news.flash.net> X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Complaints-To: abuse@flash.net X-Trace: news.flash.net 963973185 216.215.70.60 (Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:19:45 CDT) Organization: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:19:45 CDT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel Date: 2000-07-19T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: "Veli-Pekka Nousiainen" wrote in message news:vnZc5.209$2y3.8676@read2.inet.fi... > Hi, Ken ! > > "Ken Garlington" wrote in message > news:vLub5.16107$7%3.987416@news.flash.net... > > As I note in the paper, you can reasonably generate examples where DbC > > helps. However, the examples provided to date are not, IMHO, germaine to > the > > specifics of the Ariane 5 case. Here's an even more interesting aspect: > > Does this mean that you otherwise consider DbC a superior > methodology - Superior to what? In solving what problem? (Coincidences abound: My networks prof asked the class last time: "Which is the superior LAN protocol: Ethernet, token ring, or token bus?" The answer to that one is the same as the answer to your question!) > exept that IYHO in this particular case even DbC > would have been: Not Enough ! Not Enough, and maybe even Not Superior (for this problem).