From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on ip-172-31-65-14.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_40,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:4542:b0:6b3:7c51:6177 with SMTP id u2-20020a05620a454200b006b37c516177mr4014319qkp.306.1661450130102; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 10:55:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a25:e209:0:b0:67c:234a:f08c with SMTP id h9-20020a25e209000000b0067c234af08cmr4465920ybe.19.1661450129825; Thu, 25 Aug 2022 10:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!border-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2022 10:55:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <993af397-b615-44e7-ae8d-ec706f9b6098n@googlegroups.com> Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=73.177.64.234; posting-account=mOeXzwoAAACt_yXMqECCp_EJfeVMNM-g NNTP-Posting-Host: 73.177.64.234 References: <993af397-b615-44e7-ae8d-ec706f9b6098n@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <5f819cdd-e763-4a96-aed5-545d57edac23n@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Carbon From: John Perry Injection-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2022 17:55:30 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:64214 List-Id: On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 4:14:02 AM UTC-5, Fabien Chouteau wrote: > On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 7:24:58 PM UTC+2, John McCabe wrote: > > The result is that someone who appears to have > > very little software development experience misinterpreted the comments > > about half-baked features and locked the thread. > > I think they did the right thing. And provided explanations: > > > There are obviously changes that we'd like to make to C++, but calling C++ "half-baked" is demeaning to those who have invested years of work into that project. > > >> TBH, this whole project just appears to be Google trying to detract from Rust > > This is disrespectful to everyone working on the Carbon Language project. > > I agree with both. I can agree with the statements you've quoted, and I can agree with their closing the thread (they didn't delete it!) but he also called them "aggressive" statements, and that's simply untrue. Assertive and strongly-worded? sure, but aggressive? > I don't know if the people working on Carbon had a bad opinion about Ada before, but sure do now. > In the end I think that you did a lot of damage to Ada, its reputation and its community... Do language designers really draw conclusions about the quality of other languages, or even about the user community of other languages, from a handful of posts by one zealous member?