From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 11232c,877ba3d67e73c6c3 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-19 04:49:08 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,misc.misc Subject: Re: Paranoia about .NET (still): Rant! (was) Development process in the Ada community Date: 19 Apr 2002 04:49:07 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <5ee5b646.0204190349.679342bf@posting.google.com> References: <3CB46975.90408@snafu.de> <5ee5b646.0204121930.64733eeb@posting.google.com> <5wTt8.15598$C21.3515342@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com> <5ee5b646.0204130620.114953ae@posting.google.com> <4519e058.0204180615.150e4bef@posting.google.com> <357f0f4aab2ac8ef39234c96f0ab6311.48257@mygate.mailgate.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.232.38.244 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1019216948 20299 127.0.0.1 (19 Apr 2002 11:49:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Apr 2002 11:49:08 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22776 misc.misc:6666 Date: 2002-04-19T11:49:08+00:00 List-Id: "Kent Paul Dolan" wrote in message news:<357f0f4aab2ac8ef39234c96f0ab6311.48257@mygate.mailgate.org>... > "Ted Dennison" wrote: > > > My understanding is that Microsoft is at least partially bankrolling a > > lot of those compiler ports. So the real issue is why Microsoft didn't > > think Ada worth worrying about, not why ACT doesn't find .NET worth > > worrying about. > > That, at least, is a no-brainer. What made Microsoft attack Java so > strongly that it took a lawsuit to slap them down? Java is by design OS > independent, contributing to breaking the stranglehold of MS-Windows on > the market of "things needed to run applications". Microsoft as a > corporate entity and an untrammeled monopoly feels very _threatened_ by > the very _concept_ of OS independent programming languages; that's why > there's a big compiler creating effort inside Microsoft. > > OS independent programming language _by design_. Can you think of some > other language that meets that description, and so would meet with that > reaction at Microsoft? > > xanthian. Well no doubt it satisfies some need to imagine that Microsoft is plotting and scheming against Ada, but I am afraid it is absurd. The reason that Microsoft is not paying attention to Ada is that they don't hear from any serious potential customer base requesting this capability. The reason that ACT is not paying attention to .NET is that they don't hear from any serious potential customer base requestion this capability. ACT tunes its activities to what people want. This is not simply a matter of corporate good sense (you can't succeed selling people what they don't want), but also of contributing most effectively to the Ada community -- much better to spend our limited resources on things that people want and need! Robert Dewar Ada Core Technologies