From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11232c,877ba3d67e73c6c3 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-17 06:29:34 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,misc.misc Subject: Re: Rant! (was) Development process in the Ada community Date: 17 Apr 2002 06:29:34 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <5ee5b646.0204170529.beaf045@posting.google.com> References: <3CB46975.90408@snafu.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.232.38.244 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1019050174 30369 127.0.0.1 (17 Apr 2002 13:29:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Apr 2002 13:29:34 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22652 misc.misc:6450 Date: 2002-04-17T13:29:34+00:00 List-Id: > Marin David Condic wrote: > > > From rumors I've heard Boeing is drifting away from Ada for a lot of the > > same reasons as other aerospace firms - the programmers want to work in > > something more marketable. A common but highly irresponsible behavior on the web and usenet is to post rumours when you really don't know any facts. So often, these rumours quickly get taken as fact, and it is often the case that they have no grounding in fact at all. In fact the situation at Boeing is that some programs are using Ada and some are not. Some new developments are using Ada, some are not. I doubt anyone has meaningful overall figures that would support a conclusion of whether overall use is increasing at Boeing or not. Most certainly from ACT's point of view, we see an increase in use of Ada at Boeing, but that's only one point of view :-) The use of Ada is of course subject to competition. We will lose some and win some. When you lose, you try to learn, but it is singularly unhelpful to draw broad conclusions. I can certainly say that ACT is a company that is essentially 100% devoted to Ada based products, and we see our business expanding steadily. I can't speak for other Ada companies, but I can certainly be confident that neither Ada nor ACT are about to disappear in the forseeable future. I suggest people spend less time in uninformed discussions on the future of Ada use, and more time in contributing to the technical base :-) Robert Dewar Ada Core Technologies