From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,b1a9916933cd3f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-09 18:03:32 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Next public release of GNAT(?) Date: 9 Jan 2002 18:03:32 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <5ee5b646.0201091803.70a8129@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.232.38.14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1010628212 728 127.0.0.1 (10 Jan 2002 02:03:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Jan 2002 02:03:32 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:18724 Date: 2002-01-10T02:03:32+00:00 List-Id: Stephen Leake wrote in message news:... > Actually, that will be closer to GNAT 3.15; a lot of work > has been done since 3.14, and that work is reflected in > the gcc source tree. Closer, but not the same at all. There are major differences between the source bases for 3.15 and 5.00. > In addition, any release based on the gcc source tree > will not have the same quality aura as an ACT public > release, since ACT has much more strict quality controls > than gcc in general. In particular, we have access to the ACT internal test suite and the Compaq (formerly DEC) test suite, which together provide a very extensive regression testing facility. Of course bugs we find and fix will eventually find their way into the GCC tree, but changes are constantly being made to GCC that break things, so if you take the snapshots on a particular day, there are no guarantees. > ACT seems to be getting into the habit of releasing the > "previous" version as public, keeping the "current" > version for supported customers. Actually the two schedules are completely unrelated. The 3.14 public release has been delayed because we have been putting those resources into the GCC 3 based source release for gnu.org instead. > I'm not objecting; any public release is fine with me. > On that basis, the answer to the question above is "the > day after the ACT customer release of 3.15" :). For sure that is false, the period coming up to a major release of GNAT Pro and following it for a couple of months are a time when our release facilities are fully engaged. We are trying to get the 3.14p release out, at least for GNU/Linux in the near future, but if we don't make it, then it will be delayed until well after the 3.15 releases. Actually we have some internal debate here about the value of the public releases given the development of the public FSF GCC version. The latter is perfectly suitable for research and student use, which is the primary target of the public versions. Moreover, for general Free Software being developed in Ada, we think it much more important that it compiles and runs on the GCC 3 based FSF version than on an obsolete 2.8 based technology. The requirements for production use are of course radically different. Robert Dewar Ada Core Technologies