From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,58988230753075de X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-30 19:58:05 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: In praise of Ada Freeware Date: 30 Jul 2001 19:58:05 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <5ee5b646.0107301858.3dd014f4@posting.google.com> References: <87wv4r1uy5.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <+uc0vOZmzK9b@eisner.encompasserve.org> <5ee5b646.0107291409.6538ad64@posting.google.com> <4ajzJ$TMn9o+@eisner.encompasserve.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.232.38.244 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 996548285 26999 127.0.0.1 (31 Jul 2001 02:58:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Jul 2001 02:58:05 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10805 Date: 2001-07-31T02:58:05+00:00 List-Id: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message news:<4ajzJ$TMn9o+@eisner.encompasserve.org>... > In article , Ted Dennison writes: > Certainly making source available is implicit in Freeware as I > described it. Well like Humpty-Dumpty in Alice, you can make words mean anything you want, but you will confuse the issue if you use definitions different from those generally accepted. Once again, Freeware is usually used to describe any software which can be obtained at no charge. A very large amount of this software, the majority in some environments, is distributed without sources (e.g. many of the freeware games around, TE/2, and many others). That's why we don't like people to confuse Free Software (where the availability of source is key) with Freeware (where source is frequently not available). Since source availability is key for you, why not abandon your confusing insistence on the word freeware, and instead concentrate on what licenses you would like to see. Most likely these will be Free Software licenses (not necessarily the GPL, remember that many licenses qualify as Free Software, including BSD, the Ada community license, the GMGPL, and public domain).