From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.236.144.136 with SMTP id n8mr3105150yhj.22.1402414388074; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 08:33:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.27.244 with SMTP id 107mr44060qgx.18.1402414388046; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 08:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Path: border1.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!backlog3.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!s7no227396qap.1!news-out.google.com!q9ni357qaj.0!nntp.google.com!hw13no6104718qab.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 08:33:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2.121.192.150; posting-account=L2-UcQkAAAAfd_BqbeNHs3XeM0jTXloS NNTP-Posting-Host: 2.121.192.150 References: <1402308235.2520.153.camel@pascal.home.net> <85ioo9yukk.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <255b51cd-b23f-4413-805a-9fea3c70d8b2@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <5ebe316d-cd84-40fb-a983-9f953f205fef@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: a new language, designed for safety ! From: Lucretia Injection-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:33:08 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Bytes: 2980 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:186806 Date: 2014-06-10T08:33:07-07:00 List-Id: On Tuesday, 10 June 2014 15:43:04 UTC+1, Brad Moore wrote: > Is there a list of such libraries that would be of interest? If that is= =20 > what is stopping people from using Ada, then I would think it wouldn't=20 > be too hard to find people willing to work on creating non-GPL versions= =20 > of such libraries, or to create bindings to other libraries that already= =20 > exist. At the very least it would be a lot easier than inventing a new=20 > language, and then creating versions of those libraries in that new=20 > language. If you really need a list, go to AdaCore's libre site, they're all GPL, and= all a problem due to that. Also, the fact that the JVM interfacing stuff is also GPL will stop anyone = trying to create closed source commercial apps too on relevant platforms, i= .e. Android. That's not the only problem, I know of people who have left Ada and gone to= Java because of bugs in GNAT which won't get fixed unless someone pays for= it, e.g. go back to my previous point of cost. Also, to add to that, they = ended up getting slagged off in email by ACT for pointing it out, basically= being told they were wrong. This also leads to the fact that GNAT is devel= oped behind closed doors and anybody wanting to contribute patches, won't s= ee them being included. * These are things I have been told by people who h= ave gone through the various issues above. I like Ada, but it has issues which make me think about going in a differen= t direction. Luke.