From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.224.54.73 with SMTP id p9mr13666641qag.1.1374126489151; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:48:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.83.100 with SMTP id p4mr434661igy.15.1374126488951; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!t19no2048138qam.0!news-out.google.com!dk8ni470qab.0!nntp.google.com!t19no2048135qam.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 22:48:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=69.20.190.126; posting-account=lJ3JNwoAAAAQfH3VV9vttJLkThaxtTfC NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.20.190.126 References: <38846385-9884-46d5-8f58-6cf5c6049bbd@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <5deda34c-5889-4722-b9b5-1ee7005efea3@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: What if Red had won? [Or Blue?] From: Shark8 Injection-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 05:48:09 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2124 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:16405 Date: 2013-07-17T22:48:08-07:00 List-Id: On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:58:51 AM UTC-6, Jeffrey Carter wrote: >=20 > Red did win. The team behind Red was effectively in charge of the Ada-95= =20 > revision, led by some guy named Tucker Taft, whoever he is. Jean Ichbiah,= =20 > whoever he was, was so disgusted by what they did to the language that he= =20 > resigned as a Distinguished Reviewer. I remember reading that the Red team did do the brunt of the 9X revision, t= hough this is the first I've heard about Ichbiah resigning in disgust. The = addition of tagged-types was fairly well-done, I think (as in consistent w/= records to a fairly high degree) but I don't know of anything that was so = egregious as to cause disgust... except, perhaps, one thing that [IIRC] Ran= dy mentioned in a discussion of generics: they cannot be instantiated solel= y upon the formal parameters matching. Do you know what things, in particular, he didn't like about the language's= direction?