From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e78bf08926a9187e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman) Subject: Re: Helping Students Date: 1997/01/20 Message-ID: <5c19q5$b56@felix.seas.gwu.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 211154094 references: <97011914552816@psavax.pwfl.com> <5bu5f6$hdk@saturn.brighton.ac.uk> <5bukg7$sgg@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> organization: George Washington University newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-01-20T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <5bukg7$sgg@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, FerretWoman wrote: [snip] >To all the students I say this...go see your teacher! If you want to >chat up here about the types of things you are learning that's fine, >but when it comes to a problem, don't expect these people to solve it >for you. That's not learning...that could be considered cheating... Whether it's cheating or not depends on the course rules, which ought to be spelled out by the prof. More to the point, though - generally, we intro-course teachers try to give projects that are within the grasp of our students. Generally, we're not interested in seeing them fail, we're interested in seeing them succeed. Obviously I can't speak for John English, but in my own course (intro-level, like his), I'm very much interested in having students ask _me_ (or my TA) for help. How do we calibrate the difficulty of our exercises, how do we help to bail out students who are in trouble, if they don't come to us? So I say to my CLA friends: if a student asks for help, I can;t prevent you from giving hints, but one of the hints ought to be something like "have you taken advantage of the help offered by your prof and others associated with the course?" Mike Feldman ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael B. Feldman - chair, SIGAda Education Working Group Professor, Dept. of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science The George Washington University - Washington, DC 20052 USA 202-994-5919 (voice) - 202-994-0227 (fax) http://www.seas.gwu.edu/faculty/mfeldman ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pork is all that money the government gives the other guys. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ada on the WWW: www.acm.org/sigada/education or www.adahome.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------