From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,971aa11c293c3db1 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-18 13:37:49 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: codesavvy@aol.com (codesavvy) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada The Best Language? Date: 18 Jul 2001 13:37:48 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <5be89e2f.0107181237.4ab3594@posting.google.com> References: <5be89e2f.0107170838.c71ad61@posting.google.com> <9j1uio$8br$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <5be89e2f.0107171810.1cee29c0@posting.google.com> <9j46bt$3qj$1@nh.pace.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.59.170.85 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 995488668 2321 127.0.0.1 (18 Jul 2001 20:37:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-support@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jul 2001 20:37:48 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10198 Date: 2001-07-18T20:37:48+00:00 List-Id: "Marin David Condic" wrote in message news:<9j46bt$3qj$1@nh.pace.co.uk>... > Well, if Ada has nothing to offer and this is obvious then why are you > bothering to a) read this newsgroup and b) post to it at all? > Here is what I wrote: I think the answer is rather obvious, Ada has nothing to offer that is substantially better than what C++ offers. I didn't say that Ada had nothing to offer, just nothing that is substantially better than C++. > If you have a serious question about Ada and its potential benefits and are > willing to entertain the possibility that maybe Ada *is* a better choice > than C++, then we will be more than happy to point to resources for you or > help you learn the language or answer questions about the language. But a > blanket statement that seems to be saying "Ada is s**t! Why are you guys > bothering???" seems more calculated to start a flame war than to get a > serious question answered. > You must have missed my other post where I stated that Ada 95 is an excellent language and may actually be better than C++. However, I don't feel that developer productivity is significantly enhanced with Ada 95 as opposed to C++. I have asked if anyone knew of a study where the conclusion was that Ada 95 increased productivity and so far I've only been chastised. Perhaps if we can agree on what is meant by "significantly more productive" we could carry on a rational discussion. We would have to agree on the context of productivity and how it is measured. I offered up a strawman in another post. > Try rephrasing into a question we can answer & we'll undoubtedly get more > friendly. > > MDC > -- > Marin David Condic > Senior Software Engineer > Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com > Enabling the digital revolution > e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com > Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ > > > "codesavvy" wrote in message > news:5be89e2f.0107171810.1cee29c0@posting.google.com... > > I don't care if you think I'm trolling, I'm not. I think the answer > > is rather obvious, Ada has nothing to offer that is substantially > > better than what C++ offers. I've read posts in this news group that > > extoll Ada for it's many virtues but the truth of the matter is that > > they are overrated if they exist at all. Are there any statistics > > that state that Ada leads to more reliable, maintainable, or robust > > code than does C++? What class(es) of programming problems does Ada > > solve that C++ can't?