From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,52a0bacbcdd2da17 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-21 01:12:52 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: wojtek@power.com.pl (Wojtek Narczynski) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Software Patent Concerns => New Black Markets? Date: 21 Aug 2003 01:12:51 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <5ad0dd8a.0308210012.4d829d7f@posting.google.com> References: <5ad0dd8a.0308200255.4e00e2a9@posting.google.com> <3F43C8F2.E5A@mail.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.160.20.107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1061453572 19340 127.0.0.1 (21 Aug 2003 08:12:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Aug 2003 08:12:52 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41757 Date: 2003-08-21T08:12:52+00:00 List-Id: Dmytry Lavrov wrote in message news:<3F43C8F2.E5A@mail.ru>... > haha, USSR position on patenting ;-) Interesting note, have I been so indoctrinated before reaching the age of 14 :-) > Patents are good for me,say,if i will research new engine that have good > efficiency,i will spend a LOT of my time and money! Where i can get this > money back if here is no patenting? > I have some good ideas i will patent.It's not a patenting wheel. This is very idealistic, but this will not happen. It works like that: Let's grant that you already have your one cool patent. It is a good one, and ACME Inc. wants it. They will come to you and say: "Hey your engine infringed 14 patents of our patent portfolio. Let's cross license." You either say "Yes" and don't have your patent anymore, or say "No" and go into a legal battle. Their lawyers will not go after your company, they will go after you in person. After five years of harrasement, down and out, you will regret your patent. They will say "See, and we generously offered you cross-licensing..." (This story is NOT fictuous, names have been changed/wiped) And, oh, you really infringed only 2 not 7 from their 4000 portfolio. But who cares. Now quiz question: who will own your cool patent in the end? Answer at the bottom. It would be a great thing to reward the (wise) inventor, but it just doesn't work. And in software it (doesn't work)! - factorial. Now go research the engine, or better write some software, as long as you can without "infringing" someones "intelectual property". In Poland for at least five years, because our patent office is now processing applications five years old. Unfortunately if you develop in Poland, and sell in US, you still "infringe". You may have read, MS is to be severely bitten ($500M) by a troll, there is hope for much stronger patent opposition :-) Last but not least, software patent opposition - Brussels Next Wednesday August 27th. Regards, Wojtek Quiz answer: Your defendant lawyer. If you don't have money they often graciously agree to accept some % of your patent as the reward for their defense.