From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham
	autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
X-Google-Thread: 103376,3885b7fd66a1db28
X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public
X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-23 12:52:28 PST
Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail
From: wojtek@power.com.pl (Wojtek Narczynski)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada
Subject: Re: Why is Ada a good choice for an ambitious beginner to programming
Date: 23 Dec 2002 12:52:28 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com/
Message-ID: <5ad0dd8a.0212231252.3031c05f@posting.google.com>
References: <au0nld$b0$1@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au>
 <5ad0dd8a.0212210251.63b87aba@posting.google.com>
 <BA2B7F6D.15B9%yaldnifw@blueyonder.co.uk>
 <5ad0dd8a.0212230352.11f8b886@posting.google.com>
 <BA2CCA4B.1617%yaldnifw@blueyonder.co.uk>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.55.195.178
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1040676748 1108 127.0.0.1 (23 Dec 2002 20:52:28
 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Dec 2002 20:52:28 GMT
Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32256
Date: 2002-12-23T20:52:28+00:00
List-Id: <comp.lang.ada>

Bill Findlay <yaldnifw@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:<BA2CCA4B.1617%yaldnifw@blueyonder.co.uk>...
> On 23/12/02 11:52, in article
> 5ad0dd8a.0212230352.11f8b886@posting.google.com, "Wojtek Narczynski"
> <wojtek@power.com.pl> wrote:
> 
> > Bill Findlay <yaldnifw@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<BA2B7F6D.15B9%yaldnifw@blueyonder.co.uk>...
> >> On 21/12/02 10:51, in article
> >> 5ad0dd8a.0212210251.63b87aba@posting.google.com, "Wojtek Narczynski"
> >> <wojtek@power.com.pl> wrote:
> >>> The advantage of starting in Ada is that you won't acquire bad habits.
> >>> This is really important.
> >>> The disadvantage is is that Ada is difficult. Some people may tell you
> >>> otherwise, they are geniuses creating software for devices that fly to
> >>> cosmos for a few years now.
> >> 
> >> 400 not-especially-endowed-with-genius CS1 students have
> >> learned to program using Ada 95 at Glasgow University
> >> every year since 1996.
> > 
> > Well, if you asked them, "Where does 'new' allocate memory?", 50%
> > would answer "stack", 45% - "heap", 5% would give you the correct
> > answer. At least this is the result I get with graduates that claim
> > that they know C++.
> 
> (...)
> (Especially since the C++ answer is different from the Ada answer.)

Oops, you have noticed - sorry.

Regards,
Wojtek