From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3885b7fd66a1db28 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-23 03:53:00 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: wojtek@power.com.pl (Wojtek Narczynski) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why is Ada a good choice for an ambitious beginner to programming Date: 23 Dec 2002 03:52:59 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <5ad0dd8a.0212230352.11f8b886@posting.google.com> References: <5ad0dd8a.0212210251.63b87aba@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.55.195.178 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1040644380 24043 127.0.0.1 (23 Dec 2002 11:53:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Dec 2002 11:53:00 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32229 Date: 2002-12-23T11:53:00+00:00 List-Id: Bill Findlay wrote in message news:... > On 21/12/02 10:51, in article > 5ad0dd8a.0212210251.63b87aba@posting.google.com, "Wojtek Narczynski" > wrote: > > > David, > > > > The advantage of starting in Ada is that you won't acquire bad habits. > > This is really important. > > The disadvantage is is that Ada is difficult. Some people may tell you > > otherwise, they are geniuses creating software for devices that fly to > > cosmos for a few years now. > > 400 not-especially-endowed-with-genius CS1 students have > learned to program using Ada 95 at Glasgow University > every year since 1996. Well, if you asked them, "Where does 'new' allocate memory?", 50% would answer "stack", 45% - "heap", 5% would give you the correct answer. At least this is the result I get with graduates that claim that they know C++. But this has been discussed in too much detail on team-ada mailing list. Regards, Wojtek