From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: ell@access1.digex.net (Ell) Subject: Re: What is wrong with OO ? Date: 1997/01/01 Message-ID: <5acjtn$5uj@news3.digex.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 207041725 organization: The Universe newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.object,comp.software-eng Date: 1997-01-01T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Jon S Anthony (jsa@alexandria) wrote: : ell@access5.digex.net (Ell) writes: : : > Ian Joyner (i.joyner@acm.org) wrote: : > : Ell wrote: : > : > : > : > Ian Joyner (i.joyner@acm.org) wrote: : > : > : >: > : What made me think of this was that Bill Gates stated in his book that : >: > : Boeng designed the entire 777 aircraft using one gigantic electronic : >: > : document! Physical engineering disciplines have made good use of : >: > : computing technology, it's about time software engineers followed : >: > : the same path... better and more productive languages and environments, : >: > : and stop defending archaic 25 year old languages from another era. : > : > I find some 25 year languages like C++ very useful even today. A lot of : > : > following a good OO paradigm is in how tools are used and approached. : > : And people can still drive model T Fords, and fly WWI planes. : > I find the key aspects of C++ to be within the parameters of the : > _progressive_ OO paradigm and practice. In many ways C++ has led and : > still leads in the expression and implementation of many significantly : > useful OO concepts. : With respect to this "led/leads" claim: Such as????? I can't think of : _any_ where this is true. Though I can think of at least one : important _implementation_ aspect where this seems to be true. Led (first or second) wrt the OO paradigm: Private data members, static resolution of overloaded functions, protected members, and multiple inheritance. Correct me if I'm wrong. Remember this is wrt the early '80's. Elliott