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From: ell@access1.digex.net (Ell)
Subject: Re: What is wrong with OO ?
Date: 1996/12/31
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Date: 1996-12-31T00:00:00+00:00
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Ian Joyner (i.joyner@acm.org) wrote:

: What made me think of this was that Bill Gates stated in his book that
: Boeng designed the entire 777 aircraft using one gigantic electronic
: document! Physical engineering disciplines have made good use of
: computing technology, it's about time software engineers followed
: the same path... better and more productive languages and environments,
: and stop defending archaic 25 year old languages from another era.

I find some 25 year languages like C++ very useful even today.  A lot of
following a good OO paradigm is in how tools are used and approached.
 
: And this gets back to a point ...  made quite a while ago
: in this thread, that analysis and design is programming, and that
: these should not be done by different groups.

Because Boeing had a super diagram doesn't mean it's highest level was
predicated on a single, or even specific set of, technology, i.e. on one
or more specific languages, or distribution technologies in our case.

For more along these lines one should read Constantine's end column in
the latest Object magazine.  He advocates _delaying_ implementation as
much as possible.

Elliott