From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.236.228.163 with SMTP id f33mr15979128yhq.3.1427377381699; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 06:43:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.83.165 with SMTP id j34mr238055qgd.8.1427377381681; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 06:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!h3no4943860qgf.1!news-out.google.com!q90ni531qgd.1!nntp.google.com!h3no4943859qgf.1!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 06:43:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=31.186.238.50; posting-account=bMuEOQoAAACUUr_ghL3RBIi5neBZ5w_S NNTP-Posting-Host: 31.186.238.50 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <59ac455c-72f6-43e2-8a79-efc0f3e16d9a@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Languages don't matter. A mathematical refutation From: Maciej Sobczak Injection-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:43:01 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2729 X-Received-Body-CRC: 860200814 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:25260 Date: 2015-03-26T06:43:01-07:00 List-Id: > We have to look at the possible causes. What changed? At some point in time programming was introduced as a subject in the school= s that precede university. You know, just as today some people are trying t= o push programming to nursery schools. The level (and therefore age) when p= rogramming is first introduced becomes lower and lower with time and this m= eans that at the university level, as years go by, you can expect students = to have higher and higher initial programming experience. Years ago a typic= al student entered university with zero programming experience and now this= initial experience is significantly higher, thus allowing students to be m= ore successful with exercises if the exercises do not change. And since suc= h changes in the scholar system are introduced in a step-wise manner, you c= an also expect that at some particular time in the past the batch of new st= udents had a step-wise more experience at the entry. Unless you prove that this had no influence on the results in question, I r= efute the whole of your mathematical proof. > This demonstration was just for fun Sure. Preaching to the choir is always fun. ;-) But more seriously, it would be interesting to flip languages every year an= d see whether the advantages of Ada hold in terms of better results. Or run= two classes in parallel (with random assignments of students to each class= ) and compare results over the years. --=20 Maciej Sobczak * http://www.msobczak.com * http://www.inspirel.com