From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 11cae8,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid11cae8,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: ell@access5.digex.net (Ell) Subject: Re: What is wrong with OO ? Date: 1996/12/18 Message-ID: <597i62$e5m@news3.digex.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 204635848 organization: The Universe followup-to: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lnag.java,comp.object,comp.software-eng newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lnag.java,comp.object,comp.software-eng Date: 1996-12-18T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Harry Protoolis (harry@matilda.alt.net.au) wrote: : On 14 Dec 1996 23:19:51 -0500, Patrick Ma wrote: : >On 12/14/96 Robert C. Martin wrote: : > : >>OO is not a motivational discipline. It does not take willpower and : >>determination to "do things right". Rather it takes knowledge and skill. : >Without a doubt, it takes knowledge and skill to "do things right" in OO. : >However, I do think OO is a discipline and it does take willpower and : >determination together with knowledge and skill to "do things right." I do not think it's primarily any of those things. I think mainly its a matter of approach and perspective. : >It is willpower and determination of OO discipline that is going to : >lead us to : >break through these hurdles created by our very own minds. : What's OO got to do with it ? : : Idenitifying and changing errors and bad practices is a matter of : *Professionalism*, there is nothing unique to OO that makes it more : professional that any other technique. : : Of course, turning professional programmers into 'code monkeys' is just : begging for this sort of problem ... Many programmers turn themselves into "code monkeys". Imo, because they belittle the big logical picture. Elliott