From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 11cae8,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid11cae8,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public From: ell@access1.digex.net (Ell) Subject: Re: What is wrong with OO ? Date: 1996/12/13 Message-ID: <58se4d$68c@news3.digex.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 203962227 organization: The Universe followup-to: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lnag.java,comp.object,comp.software-eng newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lnag.java,comp.object,comp.software-eng Date: 1996-12-13T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: drush@zakalwe.raleigh.ibm.com wrote: : Samuel Shuster wrote: : >the lip service of the self anointed experts whom I wouldn't trust to : >design my cat's upchucked hair balls... even from a fresh example. : Please, don't hold back. Tell us how you *really* feel. : : I *like* object gurus. : : On toast. I'd like to know what it is the "object gurus" have said/done, or haven't said/done that makes you two distrust them to design systems. It certainly wouldn't be for lack of experience as virtually all of the ones I know of have extensive experience in medium and large system development. Do you all have any objections to object gurus other than that most of them see OO in the real world, or human cognition? Do you all object to the way most object gurus emphasize that planning should lead coding? What what concretely is you alls beef? Elliott