From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: mbk@caffeine.engr.utk.edu (Matt Kennel) Subject: Re: What is wrong with OO ? Date: 1996/12/11 Message-ID: <58n10g$9rv@gaia.ns.utk.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 203547134 references: <32A4659D.347A@shef.ac.uk> <32a5ceba.81462731@news.nstn.ca> <32a7ae3c.11882739@news.nstn.ca> <32AD05B0.6235@possibility.com> <32AE805D.4849@calfp.co.uk> followup-to: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.object,comp.software-eng organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville and Oak Ridge National Laboratory reply-to: %%spam repellent: remove this prefix%%kennel@msr.epm.ornl.gov newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.object,comp.software-eng Date: 1996-12-11T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Nick Leaton (nickle@calfp.co.uk) wrote: : Piercarlo Grandi wrote: : > Perhaps the reverse: if the tools were really advanced, perhaps : > including a program generator (and despite claims to the contrary no : > such thing has been yet produced), then high level design activity would : > be almost all the project. : Available now, called a programer. Exactamundo. The 'tool' is known as a "programming language". I don't understand the obsession with "high level design tools" outside programming languages. Programming langauges *are* the proper "high level design tool", and despite seeming fuddy-duddy and old-fashioned, progress in programming language has always been, and will continue to be, the most potent means to deliver the fruits of research to programmers. If you take as an axiom that "humans will always have to make some decisions" then this conclusion will follow. The real improvements in programming come when interesting new concepts are made into technology. : -- : Nick -- Matthew B. Kennel/mbk@caffeine.engr.utk.edu/I do not speak for ORNL, DOE or UT Oak Ridge National Laboratory/University of Tennessee, Knoxville, TN USA/ I would not, could not SAVE ON PHONE, |================================== I would not, could not BUY YOUR LOAN, |The US Government does not like I would not, could not MAKE MONEY FAST, |spam either. It is ILLEGAL! I would not, could not SEND NO CA$H, |USC Title 47, section 227 I would not, could not SEE YOUR SITE, |p (b)(1)(C) www.law.cornell.edu/ I would not, could not EAT VEG-I-MITE, | /uscode/47/227.html I do *not* *like* GREEN CARDS AND SPAM! |================================== M A D - I - A M!