From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,abd120a1d5231d28 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Dale Stanbrough Subject: Re: Looking for a good Ada 95 book Date: 1996/12/04 Message-ID: <584rno$294$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 202393173 distribution: world references: <57cofr$mgf@felix.seas.gwu.edu> <1996Nov30.080747.1@eisner> <57q6g7$ako@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <57qtsg$eo4@felix.seas.gwu.edu> content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 x-xxmessage-id: organization: Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-12-04T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Larry Kilgallen writes: "Although these concerns are real, they also exist in industry. To the extent that team programming and maintenance programming are a _given_ in the real world, devising methods to "teach" them (or at least "experience" them) in an educational setting is quite important." Yes I understand this. However when someone leaves a company and moves on to another, their lack of ability doesn't reflect on the company. However when someone graduates from a University/College/ whatever, they are given a piece of paper which says "we think this person _is_ good enough". Often the _only_ thing a University has of worth to employers is a reputation. If you sully that with students who get a free ride, you are in trouble. "Regarding the maintenance programming problem, would it be possible to give each team some equally garbage code created by some team from a previous year? This actually provides an even better emulation of industry, since one cannot go down the hall to get help from a "departed programmer"." Great idea. I even did it this semester in my Concurrent programming subject where students had to make old code concurrent. Students quickly appreciate the value of comments, identifiers, and working, _well tested_ code :-). Dale