From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f5d71,7248e7bb77d059e8 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5d71,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public From: ell@access4.digex.net (Ell) Subject: Re: What is wrong with OO ? Date: 1996/12/04 Message-ID: <582nic$2n1@news4.digex.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 202214815 organization: The Universe newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.java,comp.object,comp.software-eng Date: 1996-12-04T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Ell (ell@access4.digex.net) wrote: : Bill Gooch (bill@iconcomp.com) wrote: : : Bill Gooch wrote: : : > Ahmed wrote: : : > > .... : : > > Some of these claims for instance : : > > 1 - high reusability of objects and frameworks : : > While this may be claimed about specific frameworks, it is : : > not IMO a valid generalization about OOT. It is feasible : : > and important to design and implement objects which achieve : : > immediate *reuse*, general *reusability* is quite rare, and : : > exceedingly difficult to achieve, IME.... : : : : Sorry, that last sentence should have read: : : : : "Although it is feasible and important to design...." : : ^^^^^^^^ : How about all of the objects that are reusable in PowerBuilder? Things : like Window, SQLCA, MLE, SLE, etc. objects which one uses time and time : again. Similarly with other frameworks like MFC, where one uses : CDocument, CDialog, CView etc classes time and time again. With these : objects and classes one has "immediate reuse" and "general reusability", : it seems to me. Sorry, I missed the "not IMO a valid a generalization about OOT". Still it seems to me that most everyone uses frameworks nowadays - their own, or pre-made. I agree with you that given the mechanics and language differences it's almost impossible to reuse a class/object from one environment in another. But that doesn't make the goal for reuse within the same environment any less important. Elliott