From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.129.51.8 with SMTP id z8mr8751427ywz.52.1498699604543; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 18:26:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.36.19.1 with SMTP id 1mr227766itz.4.1498699604505; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 18:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!m54no1317760qtb.1!news-out.google.com!s132ni1104itb.0!nntp.google.com!185no2014762itv.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 18:26:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4e60ac97-7f4f-47e7-847a-e27983accd4b@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.113.92.25; posting-account=lJ3JNwoAAAAQfH3VV9vttJLkThaxtTfC NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.113.92.25 References: <1813789782.509760763.093426.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <87varxjouh.fsf@nightsong.com> <250466748.510009784.561340.laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <87fuelzvcq.fsf@jacob-sparre.dk> <4e60ac97-7f4f-47e7-847a-e27983accd4b@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <57c26106-4e4f-464f-83e9-fe52de614cd7@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: State of the compiler market From: Shark8 Injection-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 01:26:44 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:47165 Date: 2017-06-28T18:26:44-07:00 List-Id: On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 4:40:55 AM UTC-6, Lucretia wrote: > On Tuesday, 27 June 2017 09:29:58 UTC+1, Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote: >=20 > > At some point we will have accept to break backwards compatibility, but > > I can't see how and when it will happen. >=20 > Some people have been saying this for years, but how long it long enough = to wait? I think it's worth starting to look at this now. >=20 > Luke I think it might be. One thing that might be good to do is look into how to make the language sm= aller -- for example, if there were a way to define "abstract interfaces" (= to include custom/user-defined attributes), we could simplify the language = by defining things like discrete, scalar, numeric, array "abstract interfac= es" containing the predefined language attributes. (While at first glance, = most of that is just "moving things around" it does allow for some nice con= solidation.) I also think the ability to be able to define [[Long_]Long_]String in terms= of the appropriate [[Long_]Long_]Character and having the [[Long_]Long_]St= ring-packages be instantiations thereof would simplify things as well. (Thi= s would allow a single 'generic' definition in the standard.)