From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,abd120a1d5231d28 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: jhopper@erinet.com (jim hopper) Subject: Re: Looking for a good Ada 95 book Date: 1996/11/24 Message-ID: <5787ld$e8s@news.syspac.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 198345890 sender: full@news.syspac.com. references: <3290C33B.1772@cse.eng.lmu.edu> <56rc87$lbb@felix.seas.gwu.edu> <1996Nov23.082018.1@eisner> <577mo9$57s@news.syspac.com> x-authenticated: full on INN-RP host news.syspac.com. organization: Systems Solutions Inc. (Arizona's Internet Provider) newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-11-24T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes: > Best guess is that jim has not taught a CS1 course. I often find that > computer professionals GREATLY overestimate what is appropriate to teach > at this level. Teaching anything about programming and abstraction is > very hard -- I agree with everything jim says, but it is NOT an appropriate > excercise in a first semester course in programming, which is what we are > talking about here! No i taught physics to a lot of freshmen, but not cs-1. :-) I agree my perspective is different as i have to deal with the products of the CS courses :-) BUT i was not suggesting that first year students be taught a variety of styles in the first year. What i was suggesting is that if you am going to teach, over a four year degree, a number of styles, with a goal of breaking students of the habit of assuming their first method is the one true way, does it REALLY matter which of the several styles you want to address over the four years comes first?? best jim