From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,d51051a623c1e2d0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: davidk@OS7.ifs (David Kristola) Subject: Re: decline of Ada? Date: 1996/11/23 Message-ID: <5762ls$4qn@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 198212733 distribution: world references: <3295E96C.62B0@lmtas.lmco.com> organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. reply-to: davidk@OS7.ifs newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-11-23T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article 62B0@lmtas.lmco.com, Ken Garlington () writes: >JBisaillon wrote: >> >> I am not sure what the exact thread is here, I have a sense of what >> it might be. Let me shed some light on a few realities. >> >> 1) If you are an Ada programmer, you had better pray that you don't >> get downsized. All that training, years of experience, are virtually >> worthless unless you can find another DoD Contractor >> doing Ada. > >False. I know several Ada programmers who were downsized with the cancellation >of the A-12 program. They were in high demand. Count me as one of the A-12 downsized. I had another job within a month. That one lasted for about two years until that project was cancelled. I was working a week later. I will admit that all my jobs have been for DoD contractors (actually, they are all Lockheed Martin now). > >> 2) DoD Contractors will not build in Ada because you can't find >> trained coders to work for 24K to 32K per year. But you can find "C" >> coders. Therefore, if you want the contract, you cut the cost and >> program it in "C". It really has very little to do with the language, >> its advantages, or disadvantages. It has to do with dollars. If anyone starts building weapons systems in C using the cheapest programmers available, we all have a lot to worry about. [snip] >On a related subject, our web site now has job listings. We don't always >use Ada in the job pre-requisites, but many of the positions are for Ada >programmers. (If you're a good programmer, but don't know Ada, don't worry. >We can train you.) LMTAS (formerly General Dynamics, Fort Worth Division) had a good training program years ago, and it seems that they have maintained it. > >-- >LMTAS - "Our Brand Means Quality" >For more info, see http://www.lmtas.com or http://www.lmco.com See also: http://www.lmsc.lockheed.com --- david kristola (not speaking for Lockheed Martin or SAMCO) Home: David95036@aol.com (subject to change if spammed!) Work: Spam: eat-spam-and-die@dev.null (where all spam should go)