From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!newsfeed0.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!87.79.20.101.MISMATCH!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!novso.com!nerim.net!usenet-fr.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed3-a.proxad.net!nnrp3-1.free.fr!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?b?RnLpZOlyaWM=?= Praca Subject: Re: F-35 (was:F-22 ADA Programming) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <544dcfe4$0$39507$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com> <2014102820495633928-rblove@airmailnet> User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 30 Oct 2014 09:01:06 GMT Message-ID: <5451fe52$0$2378$426a74cc@news.free.fr> Organization: Guest of ProXad - France NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Oct 2014 10:01:06 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.144.202.121 X-Trace: 1414659666 news-1.free.fr 2378 213.144.202.121:51581 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:22914 Date: 2014-10-30T10:01:06+01:00 List-Id: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 20:49:56 -0500, Robert Love wrote: > On 2014-10-27 04:53:56 +0000, Jerry Petrey said: > >> On 10/26/2014 11:31 AM, nathandsash@gmail.com wrote: >>> I read a few articles on ADA programming and came across a very >>> interesting fact: that the F-22 was/is programmed in ADA. So this >>> raises a few questions for me: >>> >>> 1) What version of ADA is the F-22 programmed in? >>> 2) What exactly were the parts of the F-22 were programmed in ADA? >>> Were all the avionic components programmed in ADA or are there some >>> programmed in another language like C, C++, VHDL, Verilog, etc. >>> >>> >>> >> I was working for Lockheed during the time the F22 software was being >> developed. I worked on other aircraft using Ada (the C130J and the >> C27J) and we all used Ada - it was Ada83 and we sometimes shared some >> code with the F22 people. Ada was very successful on all those >> aircraft. By the way, the Boeing 777 was also done mostly in Ada as >> was the Rosetta spacecraft which has just recently achieved a comet >> rendezvous after a 10 year journey. >> >> Jerry > > Does anyone have knowledge of how software for the F-35 went? Budget, > schedule and quality? Was it autocoded from UML or written in the > traditonal fashion? Is there any way to compare software development > success between F-22 and F-35? Well, you can find several things about that. First, on Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II#Program_cost_increases_and_delays ), you will learn that software is one of the main actors in the delays. More technical information can be found there (https://www.csiac.org/ sites/default/files/ journal_files/2010_03_30_SoftwareQualityReliabilityandErrorPrediction.pdf ) from page 36 to 39. One thing linked to the other posts in this thread is the choice of C/C++ for staffing concerns. But don't count on me to make the link between software delays and the C++ choice :) Fred