From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,9923b1c3be80099b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: jhopper@erinet.com (jim hopper) Subject: Re: Ada and Mac (Was: New version of AppletMagic) Date: 1996/10/10 Message-ID: <53i4vm$htk@news.syspac.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 188396693 sender: full@news.syspac.com. references: <53d992INNnp@maz4.sma.ch> <53dnlp$bq7@news.syspac.com> x-authenticated: full on INN-RP host news.syspac.com. organization: Systems Solutions Inc. (Arizona's Internet Provider) newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-10-10T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article Stan Shebs writes: > > 1. make files between mpw and gcc are MUCH different. stan made a > > translator which does some of the work, but i don't yet know how much > > work its going to be to move ada make to mpw > > Point me at the GNAT makefile and I'll set up a basic mpw-make.sed. > I've done enough now that it's pretty easy to write a new one. Stan, thanks for your generous offer. i will get you the stuff over this weekend. > > > 3. it appears that because of the way mpw has forced stan to translate > > the make files and patches that it will be a lot more work to maintain > > the updates than it is with gnat. > > Depends on how the GNAT makefile is set up. The base GCC makefile > editor is the most complicated of all the makefile sed scripts I've had > to write, and it's been changed 10 times in the past year, of which > 4-5 were to track GCC makefile changes (internal Cygnus versions of > FSF code are more turbulent than released versions). you know much better than i do. it would take about 10 passes a year i ssupect of the gnat make file as well. > > > bottom line, i would really like to have a version that was a > > metrowerks plugin, but mpw version is just not worth the trouble. mpw > > offers NO advantages (other than some people already have it) over > > machten once the new codebuilder version comes out from tenon. This > > will happen in the next month or so depending on how quick we get > > native mac tasking wrapped up. > > MPW *is* Apple's officially supported programming environment. Even > with its limitations, it can do many tricks that the IDEs can only > dream of, such as building MacOS itself... dont get my wrong, i spent a lot of years working with mpw, i love it for a lot of things, and continued using it long after most had gone to nice IDE's on the mac, its just that to me Machten is mpw+. I think your gcc c compiler on mpw is a very great contribution as it will push the envelope for the mac, but a gnat on machten and a gnat on mpw will be pretty much the same capabilities. thanks again for the offer of help i will be takin you up on it sooner than i had anticipated being able to get to it thanks to this offer. best jim