From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE, MSGID_SHORT,TO_NO_BRKTS_PCNT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Xref: utzoo comp.lang.ada:2305 comp.software-eng:1409 comp.lang.eiffel:167 comp.lang.c++:3132 comp.lang.smalltalk:1031 comp.lang.modula2:1467 news.groups:9297 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!lll-winken!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrcae!hubcap!wtwolfe From: wtwolfe@hubcap.clemson.edu (Bill Wolfe) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.modula2,news.groups Subject: Newsgroup vote succeeds: comp.sw.components Message-ID: <5341@hubcap.clemson.edu> Date: 29 Apr 89 17:46:17 GMT Organization: Clemson University, Clemson, SC List-Id: The voting period for the comp.sw.components newsgroup has concluded, with decisive results: 183 (89.7%) YES, 21 (10.3%) NO, 204 (100.0%) total. Partitioning the voters depending on whether or not they were members of the comp.sw.components mailing list, those that were on the mailing list voted 62 (88.6%) YES, 8 (11.4%) NO, 70 total, representing 34.3% of the overall vote. Those that were not on the mailing list voted 121 (90.9%) YES, 12 (9.1%) NO, 133 total, representing 65.7% of the overall vote. All voters were sent acknowledgements; a few poorly connected voters somehow managed to get votes to me even though I couldn't figure out how to get an acknowledgement back to them, and I generally quit after 5 to 10 bounced attempts. All votes are listed at the end of this article, in order of their arrival. The following is a description of the scope of the new newsgroup: $ This newsgroup will facilitate discussions about software components $ and their design, implementation, and utilization. It is probable that $ this will be mainly a group of professional component developers, people $ who are training to become such a professional, and/or people who have an $ interest in developing their own components from time to time. $ $ As a "public service", we are also here to help and advise all component $ users who need advice, and to provide a forum for reviewing the software $ components provided by vendors. We are also here to allow the people who $ developed any products which are criticized to show why perhaps the $ criticism may not be entirely justified, or to seek ideas regarding how $ the component(s) could be improved, and to provide a means by which new $ techniques can be spread throughout the component development community. $ $ Also, questions such as "How can I handle problem X which arises when I $ try to implement component Y in language Z?" and "I have a nifty priority $ queue, and would like a B+ tree; anyone wanna trade?" are encouraged. The following 21 people unsuccessfully opposed the creation of the new comp.sw.components newsgroup: >From dalamb%qucis.queensu.ca@QUCDN.QueensU.CA Wed Mar 29 06:52:57 1989 >From gore@eecs.nwu.edu Wed Mar 29 13:47:13 1989 >From psrc@pegasus.att.com Wed Mar 29 13:58:18 1989 >From rsalz@bbn.com Wed Mar 29 17:15:06 1989 >From shrum%hpshrum@hp-sde.sde.hp.com Wed Mar 29 19:19:25 1989 >From haden%elcgl.epfl.ch%CLSEPF51.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Thu Mar 30 02:25:22 1989 >From paul%oucsace@att.att.com Thu Mar 30 22:03:42 1989 >From ateng!chip@uunet.UU.NET Fri Mar 31 13:44:22 1989 >From ge-rtp!arisia.GE.COM!everhart@mcnc.org Fri Mar 31 23:16:59 1989 >From utai!calgary!jonesb@uunet.UU.NET Mon Apr 3 19:53:57 1989 >From bruno@inmic.se Tue Apr 4 07:24:57 1989 >From OWEGO@IBM.COM Tue Apr 4 21:51:40 1989 >From lear@NET.BIO.NET Tue Apr 11 03:07:54 1989 >From tse%con.Berkeley.EDU@BERKELEY.EDU Tue Apr 11 11:00:20 1989 >From arisco%cadillac.cad.mcc.com%mcc.com@MCC.COM Tue Apr 11 16:39:45 1989 >From tower@wheaties.ai.mit.edu Wed Apr 12 00:59:33 1989 >From jans%stammer.labs.tek.com%tektronix.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET Wed Apr 12 15:38:51 1989 >From jima%hplsla@hp-sde.sde.hp.com Wed Apr 12 18:12:20 1989 >From goofy!apple.com!blob@apple.com Thu Apr 13 16:27:36 1989 >From mcvax!g4lzv!keith@uunet.UU.NET Fri Apr 14 02:19:32 1989 >From ted@NMSU.Edu Fri Apr 14 14:36:23 1989 The following 183 persons successfully supported the creation of the new comp.sw.components newsgroup: >From falis@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu Wed Mar 29 11:38:24 1989 >From jmlake@uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu Wed Mar 29 12:03:45 1989 >From prc%maxim@kthvax.kth.se Wed Mar 29 03:10:10 1989 >From RCONN@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Wed Mar 29 05:46:03 1989 >From moogvax!terry@cs.Buffalo.EDU Wed Mar 29 08:07:12 1989 >From asp@SEI.CMU.EDU Wed Mar 29 09:38:43 1989 >From eachus@mbunix.mitre.org Wed Mar 29 10:29:58 1989 >From tallman@hc.dspo.gov Wed Mar 29 11:13:42 1989 >From bog@Sun.COM Wed Mar 29 12:03:14 1989 >From jerbil@csvax.caltech.edu Wed Mar 29 12:23:45 1989 >From rkr@june.cs.washington.edu Wed Mar 29 12:33:20 1989 >From neff@anna.STANFORD.EDU Wed Mar 29 13:17:35 1989 >From morgan@wheaties.ai.mit.edu Wed Mar 29 13:32:25 1989 >From lewis%cadillac.cad.mcc.com%mcc.com@MCC.COM Wed Mar 29 13:36:14 1989 >From cassell@PRC.Unisys.COM Wed Mar 29 14:11:25 1989 >From rayssd!rayssde.RAY.COM!gsl@a.cs.uiuc.edu Wed Mar 29 15:03:56 1989 >From msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu Wed Mar 29 15:27:18 1989 >From peter@langlab1.hf.intel.com Wed Mar 29 14:07 EST 1989 >From murali@cis.ohio-state.edu Wed Mar 29 16:22:00 1989 >From raja@twilight.osc.edu Wed Mar 29 16:27:42 1989 >From zavras@cs.wisc.edu Wed Mar 29 16:31:54 1989 >From zinn!goldfnch!freb@harvard.harvard.edu Wed Mar 29 17:13:14 1989 >From s5!dff@uunet.UU.NET Wed Mar 29 17:16:24 1989 >From crm@cs.duke.edu Wed Mar 29 17:17:19 1989 >From rar@ads.com Wed Mar 29 18:22:44 1989 >From sumax!eichmann@beaver.cs.washington.edu Wed Mar 29 18:38:49 1989 >From andyd%pogo.wv.tek.com%tektronix.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET Wed Mar 29 19:33:10 1989 >From limonce@pilot.njin.net Wed Mar 29 19:41:45 1989 >From kmcentee@apple.com Wed Mar 29 19:52:30 1989 >From mrb@SEI.CMU.EDU Wed Mar 29 21:06:13 1989 >From hughes@bosco.Berkeley.EDU Wed Mar 29 21:06:17 1989 >From jbrodie%X102C@HARRIS-ATD.COM Thu Mar 30 00:22:36 1989 >From mcvax!crin.crin.fr!tombre@uunet.UU.NET Thu Mar 30 01:31:52 1989 >From IBRAHIM%CGEUGE51.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Thu Mar 30 01:43:11 1989 >From HAUSEN%DBNGMD21.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Thu Mar 30 02:36:41 1989 >From jsm%iddth.dk@dkuug.dk Thu Mar 30 02:43:03 1989 >From ncr-sd!serene!rfarris@ncrcae.UUCP Thu Mar 30 03:43:19 1989 >From matthew%uvabick@hp4nl.nluug.nl Thu Mar 30 04:12:34 1989 >From wesley%uvabick@hp4nl.nluug.nl Thu Mar 30 04:14:02 1989 >From athertn!ky@decwrl.dec.com Thu Mar 30 05:18:46 1989 >From mcvax!cs.aber.ac.uk!rjg@uunet.UU.NET Thu Mar 30 05:39:17 1989 >From rracine@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu Thu Mar 30 08:38:57 1989 >From dgg@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu Thu Mar 30 08:41:49 1989 >From hofkin%software.org@RELAY.CS.NET Thu Mar 30 09:07:27 1989 >From levisonm%qucis.queensu.ca@QUCDN.QueensU.CA Thu Mar 30 09:13:53 1989 >From scc%computer-lab.cambridge.ac.uk@NSS.Cs.Ucl.AC.UK Thu Mar 30 10:04:06 1989 >From rk@lexicon.com Thu Mar 30 10:31:51 1989 >From edwards@ida.org Thu Mar 30 11:45:53 1989 >From raila@m.cs.uiuc.edu Thu Mar 30 12:32:32 1989 >From arny%cbnewsl@att.att.com Thu Mar 30 13:14:40 1989 >From presberg@compass.com Thu Mar 30 13:42:40 1989 >From jimn@madeleine.ICS.UCI.EDU Thu Mar 30 14:01:35 1989 >From weyrich@csun1.cs.uga.edu Thu Mar 30 15:31:00 1989 >From dumphres%galaxy@BLACKBIRD.AFIT.AF.MIL Thu Mar 30 16:13:53 1989 >From ficc!jeffd@uunet.UU.NET Thu Mar 30 16:29:36 1989 >From osu-cis!chemabs!lwv27@cis.ohio-state.edu Thu Mar 30 16:29:47 1989 >From athertn!paul@Sun.COM Thu Mar 30 18:47:21 1989 >From rfg%mcc.com@MCC.COM Thu Mar 30 19:15:00 1989 >From landauer@Sun.COM Thu Mar 30 19:48:22 1989 >From pmateti%odin.wright.edu@RELAY.CS.NET Fri Mar 31 01:09:46 1989 >From baldo@ida.org Fri Mar 31 13:07:55 1989 >From weide@cis.ohio-state.edu Fri Mar 31 13:26:06 1989 >From ncrlnk!ncrwat!swdev.Waterloo.NCR.COM!neil@ncrcae.UUCP Fri Mar 31 14:06:37 1989 >From ncr-sd!nosc!philabs.philips.com!clunker!shap@ncrcae.UUCP Fri Mar 31 14:06:39 1989 >From ncrlnk!uunet!lci386!jerome@ncrcae.UUCP Fri Mar 31 14:06:50 1989 >From ncrlnk!uunet!lll-winken!uwmcsd4!mailrus.cc.umich.edu!ames.uucp!rochester!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!shuksan!scott@ncrcae.UUCP Fri Mar 31 14:06:56 1989 >From CARTER%MSSTATE.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Fri Mar 31 18:40:50 1989 >From mcvax!krafla!snorri@uunet.UU.NET Sat Apr 1 01:56:20 1989 >From weh@SEI.CMU.EDU Sat Apr 1 11:36:19 1989 >From YLAROTIALA@hylka.Helsinki.FI Sun Apr 2 04:02:02 1989 >From bokjoo@mimsy.umd.edu Mon Apr 3 00:12:51 1989 >From jeenglis%nunki.usc.edu@oberon.usc.edu Mon Apr 3 05:26:10 1989 >From OMAHONY%cs.tcd.ie@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Mon Apr 3 10:26:59 1989 >From sikkel%serc.nl%serc@hp4nl.nluug.nl Mon Apr 3 12:13:35 1989 >From lsr@apple.com Mon Apr 3 12:53:14 1989 >From pacbell!pbrain!rsp@decwrl.dec.com Mon Apr 3 17:13:49 1989 >From stein@pixelpump.osc.edu Mon Apr 3 19:34:54 1989 >From wilensky@compass.com Mon Apr 3 18:58:38 1989 >From robin%uwocsd.uwo.ca@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu Tue Apr 4 15:46:51 1989 >From jwg1%gte.com@RELAY.CS.NET Tue Apr 4 14:02:26 1989 >From loshin@compass.com Tue Apr 4 18:02:11 1989 >From rick@pavlov.bcm.tmc.edu Wed Apr 5 16:05:35 1989 >From cs.utexas.edu!uunet.UU.NET!unido!gmdzi!ive2!buth@gatech.UUCP Thu Apr 6 02:01:44 1989 >From cs.utexas.edu!uunet.UU.NET!mcvax!iesd!fischer@gatech.UUCP Thu Apr 6 02:01:47 1989 >From hplabs.hp.com!hpslutz!slutz@gatech.UUCP Thu Apr 6 02:01:55 1989 >From Sun.COM!elxsi!beatnix!murphy@gatech.UUCP Thu Apr 6 02:01:57 1989 >From npiatl!dkelly@gatech.UUCP Fri Apr 7 03:08:16 1989 >From CAROZZONI@TOPS20.RADC.AF.MIL Sat Apr 8 10:22:06 1989 >From munnari!goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au!shn@uunet.UU.NET Sun Apr 9 08:23:12 1989 >From decvax!savax!sohail@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU Mon Apr 10 17:29:25 1989 >From utai!calgary!jameson@uunet.UU.NET Mon Apr 10 20:55:18 1989 >From mcvax!marlow!cweir@uunet.UU.NET Mon Apr 10 23:17:38 1989 >From schmidt@zola.ICS.UCI.EDU Tue Apr 11 04:09:12 1989 >From jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu Tue Apr 11 04:33:21 1989 >From collberg@DNA.LTH.Se Tue Apr 11 07:08:14 1989 >From gjditchfield@watmsg.waterloo.edu Tue Apr 11 09:36:27 1989 >From mfci!ryland@uunet.UU.NET Tue Apr 11 10:32:27 1989 >From dicome!wells@mmm.serc.mmm.com Tue Apr 11 10:42:31 1989 >From garfield!cauchy!jeff1@uunet.UU.NET Tue Apr 11 11:00:11 1989 >From tuck@cs.unc.edu Tue Apr 11 11:29:03 1989 >From neal@cs.rochester.edu Tue Apr 11 11:39:58 1989 >From ccastjb%prism@gatech.edu Tue Apr 11 12:20:13 1989 >From JSM1269%draper.com@RELAY.CS.NET Tue Apr 11 15:07:09 1989 >From swain@boulder.Colorado.EDU Tue Apr 11 15:16:22 1989 >From portal!cup.portal.com!MacUserLabs@Sun.COM Tue Apr 11 15:46:47 1989 >From mjs%cbnews@att.att.com Tue Apr 11 16:12:04 1989 >From vanandel@clipper.UCAR.EDU Tue Apr 11 16:46:41 1989 >From mount%hpda@hp-sde.sde.hp.com Tue Apr 11 19:14:50 1989 >From jromine@gremlin.nrtc.northrop.com Tue Apr 11 19:37:39 1989 >From ashtate!dwiggins@uunet.UU.NET Tue Apr 11 20:02:28 1989 >From fm@Sun.COM Tue Apr 11 20:12:49 1989 >From dak%santiam.cs.uoregon.edu@mist.math.uoregon.edu Tue Apr 11 20:49:58 1989 >From joemac@apple.com Tue Apr 11 21:54:25 1989 >From JI8%PSUVM.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Tue Apr 11 21:55:55 1989 >From watcher@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Tue Apr 11 23:33:00 1989 >From lethe!root@uunet.UU.NET Wed Apr 12 00:43:30 1989 >From homebru!ddsw1!karl@oddjob.uchicago.edu Wed Apr 12 00:55:16 1989 >From prlb2!prlb!jvdgoor-mswe-decnet@uunet.UU.NET Wed Apr 12 03:21:51 1989 >From bertil%rainier@isy.liu.se Wed Apr 12 03:22:55 1989 >From ath@prosys Wed Apr 12 03:40:49 1989 >From eutrc3!@hp4nl.nluug.nl.exiphm Wed Apr 12 03:42:57 1989 >From shapiro@sor.inria.fr Wed Apr 12 04:56:50 1989 >From mcvax!axion.bt.co.uk!krichard@uunet.UU.NET Wed Apr 12 05:04:39 1989 >From 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>From ames!oliveb!clunker!jt@gatech.UUCP Wed Apr 12 23:48:24 1989 >From utai!yunexus!mike@uunet.UU.NET Thu Apr 13 07:00:33 1989 >From munnari!chook.ua.oz.au!michael@uunet.UU.NET Thu Apr 13 07:04:15 1989 >From ncrlnk!uunet!microsoft!paulc@ncrcae.UUCP Thu Apr 13 07:05:03 1989 >From john@libdev.Dartmouth.EDU Thu Apr 13 14:22:40 1989 >From Doug.Philips@k.gp.cs.cmu.edu Thu Apr 13 14:53:22 1989 >From JFM@vx.acss.umn.edu Thu Apr 13 18:26:00 1989 >From gt0818a%prism@gatech.edu Thu Apr 13 18:36:50 1989 >From c60c-1dm%WEB.Berkeley.EDU@lilac.berkeley.edu Thu Apr 13 18:58:05 1989 >From dave%uswest.com@boulder.Colorado.EDU Thu Apr 13 20:56:47 1989 >From oakhill!val!aubrey@cs.utexas.edu Thu Apr 13 22:40:49 1989 >From datapg!sewilco@uunet.UU.NET Thu Apr 13 23:52:54 1989 >From gjf@cs.unc.edu Fri Apr 14 08:30:47 1989 >From clark@cme.nbs.gov Fri Apr 14 09:02:17 1989 >From rbm@mozart.att.com Fri Apr 14 10:58:04 1989 >From eddy@battenkill.crd.ge.com Fri Apr 14 13:03:42 1989 >From 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>From jellinghaus-robert@YALE.EDU Wed Apr 19 21:19:58 1989 >From leeu@peabd.se Thu Apr 20 03:24:11 1989 >From thhj%imada.dk@dkuug.dk Thu Apr 20 05:21:29 1989 >From <ford@greg!cwi.uucp> Mon Apr 24 15:08:25 1989 >From tjw@unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu Mon Apr 24 18:05:54 1989 >From om@icsib2.Berkeley.EDU Mon Apr 24 18:15:55 1989 >From ukc!gec-rl-hrc.co.uk!pj@uunet.UU.NET Tue Apr 25 04:40:39 1989 >From ulowell!applicon!calm@harvard.harvard.edu Wed Apr 26 06:11:24 1989 >From WINFAVE%HDETUD1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Wed Apr 26 23:00:41 1989 >From rti!bbt!dea@mcnc.mcnc.org Thu Apr 27 18:56:36 1989 >From wtwolfe Thu Apr 27 20:20:32 1989 A newsgroup creation request is en route to Mr. Gene Spafford. Bill Wolfe, wtwolfe@hubcap.clemson.edu comp.sw.components Mailing List administrator