From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.236.90.67 with SMTP id d43mr1947914yhf.36.1380349280185; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:21:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.62.97 with SMTP id x1mr531qer.10.1380349279998; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!q9no141622qas.0!news-out.google.com!9ni533qaf.0!nntp.google.com!q9no141616qas.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:21:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=174.28.152.201; posting-account=lJ3JNwoAAAAQfH3VV9vttJLkThaxtTfC NNTP-Posting-Host: 174.28.152.201 References: <2f813569-5ff8-4c20-a5ab-8538e6514906@googlegroups.com> <1f562daa-f551-4950-93c4-99555c0e3ab3@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <53272638-d56f-460e-a10c-045c96a88de5@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Anti-Ada FUD (rant) From: Shark8 Injection-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 06:21:20 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:17320 Date: 2013-09-27T23:21:19-07:00 List-Id: On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:18:33 PM UTC-6, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 23:38:32 -0700 (PDT), krfkeith wrote: > > > >I love the laughable claim that WinNT is poorly designed. While some of = the userland has left some to be desired, the core of the NT systems is *ve= ry* competently designed. The NT team was lead by Dave Cutler, of DEC fame.= =20 >=20 > The internals may be good -- though I could wish for even more of VMS > to have been "ported"... Like (common) event flag clusters, IPC via > mailboxes, and maybe even the entire QIO system... Somehow the objects > that WinNT+ uses for "wait" don't feel natural to me, and the divorced > socket I/O system show a few warts (select only works on sockets, need a > different API for files, etc.) >=20 > But the failure to provide a decent command shell scripting capability > (a la DCL) saddled it. PowerShell finally makes an apologetic entry (Pity > my main use is a glorified "find": > get-childitem -path "xxx" -filter "*.ext" | select-string -pattern "yyy" > ) You know, I've heard a lot of good stuff about VMS (and DEC's Ada compiler)= -- kinda makes me wish I had first-hand experience with them. (And, obviou= sly, the R-1000, that sounds like a *very* interesting setup to me... and I= 'm not convinced that having "the library" [and source, and objects {.o/.ob= j}] stored in a database isn't "the right way" to do things.)