From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool4.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:44:23 +0100 From: "G.B." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Text_IO, was: Re: Something I don't understand References: <13cmx8lollig2.1ic40x57wows8$.dlg@40tude.net> <1mh0lp04e4bzc.vr6hi3fcbba5.dlg@40tude.net> <7gb1iv15zuh$.1qbeifwuyvuoa.dlg@40tude.net> <5304cfc5$0$9515$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <6dqag9t8kleaf5jtf4qv9387oq2mrrvvub@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <6dqag9t8kleaf5jtf4qv9387oq2mrrvvub@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <5305ea94$0$9508$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Feb 2014 12:44:20 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 9bdb16a6.newsspool1.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=@jMGbJ\om83lIh70@4Fo<]lROoR1nkgeX?EC@@0JkkRih[6:Lh>_cHTX3j=ITBk7akB0V= X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:18700 Date: 2014-02-20T12:44:20+01:00 List-Id: On 20.02.14 03:39, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 16:37:42 +0100, Georg Bauhaus > declaimed the following: > >> >> The normal use case for HTML is when there are at least >> two computer systems involved: >> >> (1) one sending documents (->), and receiving requests (<-), >> ??????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? >> (2) one receiving documents (<-), and sending requests (->), >> (...) > Uhm... That defines HTTP. Yes, hypertext, by design, is for being transported. An Ada program will produce a document, and, as part of this normal use case, will send it. Done. Whereas dispatching that involves rendering is not part of the same Ada program. > CSS is an evil trying to turn HTML into a page-layout language... If > one really needs that much control over the document -- ship it as a PDF Real world HTML adapts to the needs of those financing its use. The two most important adaptations are defined by the powers that be: 1. graphics designers, who just cannot work without a fixed 2D canvas. (They turn everything into fliers.) 2. Big Data monetizers (Ads & Co.; The Media), who need Javascript attachments; Javascript functions are triggered by events bound to DOM elements. PDF does not deliver, by comparison. Neither of them is anywhere near the requirements of template based Text I/O, I think. But there might be some financing for the latter.