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On 08.07.13 14:14, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 12:54:56 +0200, G.B. wrote:
>
>> Non-modern hardware is as cheap as a plastic spoon!
>
> That is why it is not available. Fetch me an i486 board.

i486 is PC stuff; while remotely similar to  what the OP has
asked for, we could still keep the discussion focused on the vast
number of systems not controlled by PCs where Ada is not available
in the same cost range.

>> Price is a convincing argument when the effect of the embedded
>> system is simple.
>
> Not really. In fact embedded boards are far more expensive than consumer's
> boards.

What is being offered here
http://www.adafruit.com
is produced by someone; I imagine these gadgets are being
made not just for the DIY market.

If a household device is sold at $$ - $$$, how could a
microcontroller with a few pieces added be as expensive
as you say? I can buy an electronic scale at $$; how so,
if embedded boards cost much more than that as you say?

A small(!) battery charger with an Atom processor in it?
I am sure that people would rush to get one and turn the
battery charger into a home server.

> An industrial Atom board has the price of a complete PC with ten
> times more memory and higher performance.

The word "industrial" is so vague that it leads nowhere.

>> If Ada vendors wish to loose all but the market for expensive high
>> end systems, then that's their choice.
>
> It is not their choice. It is the board vendors who determine what is in
> the BSP. No Ada vendor has the resources to port it on every possible
> board.

Port what?  People have asked for good compile-time support
with some minimal run-time support. The meaning of "minimal"
not being "full Ada".