From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border1.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border4.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.bbs-scene.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!usenet-fr.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool3.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 10:03:30 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Help with embedded hardware/software platform selection for ADA References: <31f9819e-6509-4d67-acea-4d2ba9a96c04@googlegroups.com> <4csim6j63mk4.1c54vo5v7eu8c.dlg@40tude.net> <51d280e7$0$6556$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <182gssxjlz8at$.zid6ypl98cs2.dlg@40tude.net> In-Reply-To: <182gssxjlz8at$.zid6ypl98cs2.dlg@40tude.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <51d3dad0$0$6582$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 03 Jul 2013 10:03:28 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: cec1db89.newsspool3.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=BPBoRNTD55K=McF=Q^Z^V384Fo<]lROoR18kFejV8A?6dnHRBSg On 03.07.13 09:18, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 15:21:06 -0700 (PDT), mjsilva@scriptoriumdesigns.com > wrote: > >> I could add to this list of examples indefinitely, without coming anywhere >> near your Windows/Linux/VxWorks world. > > Sure, like doing physical layer of Ethernet using digital inputs and > outputs. The only question is why anybody would like to? Rather, the question is, what *are* these programmers actually *doing*, and *buying*? For just one example of the sizes of things (and markets), have you seen the Anki Drive demo? That's AI which steers model racing cars that are slightly above the size of a matchbox. In Anki's Facebook presence, they talk a little about their technology, "Using cutting edge sensors and powerful algorithms, each car in Drive knows where it is." Now imagine more cars, faster movements, improved precision of motion ... they won't be mounting a $$$, 6" x 6" board on the roofs of cars not half this size, will they? Now take that to the hobbyist level, or even the low cost commercial level. Another fashionable product, which is currently pricey, is LED light bulb control. Is an Arduino with ham radio attached to every bulb even reasonable? > Anyway if you want this, why don't you use some Ada to C compiler? AdaCore's (formerly SofCheck's) requires a C (or C++) runtime, and builds a runtime for Ada on top of it, IIUC. So this doesn't change the picture.