From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.180.88.104 with SMTP id bf8mr10483914wib.3.1372750055750; Tue, 02 Jul 2013 00:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Path: border1.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border4.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!mf3no17307198wib.1!news-out.google.com!md6ni36466wic.0!nntp.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool3.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 09:27:40 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Help with embedded hardware/software platform selection for ADA References: <31f9819e-6509-4d67-acea-4d2ba9a96c04@googlegroups.com> <4csim6j63mk4.1c54vo5v7eu8c.dlg@40tude.net> In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <51d280e7$0$6556$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 02 Jul 2013 09:27:35 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 379bc63f.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=>doI1YHT6J`_0Po7BmQ3]l4IUKjLh>_cHTX3jm00]ZUh1WEZa X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Original-Bytes: 2684 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:182201 Date: 2013-07-02T09:27:35+02:00 List-Id: On 02.07.13 01:35, Simon Clubley wrote: > On 2013-07-01, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> >> Don't be. Meanwhile, there are plenty of Intel Atom and AMD Geode SBCs. >> >> E.g. an ALIX board is under 100 EUR. >> >> http://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm >> http://pcengines.ch/pic/alix2b3.jpg >> > > That is way, way too big for some embedded environments (for example if > someone wants to drop a board into a model aircraft, ground based robot > or handheld device). Also, rather expensive if you want to connect many small "systems". Small here means relative to the size of things in our home environment. And, I guess, these boards need way too much electrical energy to be drawn from heavy batteries. Precludes mobile system, "mobile systems" in a more natural sense of moving, or being placed. Vendors: I still wonder why not a single vendor sells a Ravenscar run-time with compiler at a hobbyist price, without support. Have buyers sign a contract, on paper, if you have reason to assume they might otherwise use the compiler for non-small, non-hobbyist things. Leave watermarks in the code. Anything.