From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f7be1,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gidf7be1,public X-Google-Thread: 11390f,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gid11390f,public X-Google-Thread: 101deb,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1164ba,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gid1164ba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: fa0ae,be6b7e036aa9236c X-Google-Attributes: gidfa0ae,public From: seebs@solutions.solon.com (Peter Seebach) Subject: Re: language wars (results 13 September) last posting Date: 1996/09/13 Message-ID: <51c6df$c23@solutions.solon.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 180414024 distribution: inet references: <51bv60$8d@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> <323993D5.41C6@lanl.gov> organization: Usenet Fact Police (Undercover) reply-to: seebs@solon.com newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.apl,comp.lang.basic,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.rexx,comp.lang.pascal.misc,comp.lang.smalltalk Date: 1996-09-13T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <323993D5.41C6@lanl.gov>, William Clodius wrote: >3. No postings to the moderated newsgroups, which tend to attract more >knowledgeable posters. And we didn't get a submission, at least in clcm. (Although I'd probably have bounced it as a troll.) Maybe it's about time for comp.lang.advocacy? >4. The disallowal of first languages implies, at least in the US, >reduced votes for Basic, Pascal, C, and Fortran which may bias results >in Ada's favor. It also prevents people like me, who have no real memory of the order in which we learned things, from answering. It's also ill defined; does the fact that I used to type "rogue" when I was about 9 years old mean Bourne shell was my first language? >5. There is no way to weight the voter's experience with a variety of >languages. Certainly. Would my failure to rank Ada be because it's not a language I *would* like, or because GNAT doesn't support NetBSD/68k yet? >6. There is no way to weight the voter's degree of preference. Or degree of bias. I'm on XJ311. Does this mean I'm biased towards C? (Or against it, for that matter.) I mean, all we can really say is the only reason that TECO macros weren't the winner is that no one has any respect for *REAL* programming any more. -s -- Peter Seebach - seebs@solon.com - Copyright 1996 - http://www.solon.com/~seebs Unix/C Wizard - send mail for help, or send money for consulting! The *other* C FAQ, the hacker FAQ, et al. See web page above. Unsolicited email (junk mail and ads) is unwelcome, and will be billed for.