From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11232c,c2318591037235d2 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,c2318591037235d2 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-20 09:48:44 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!news.mailgate.org!mygate.mailgate.org!66-122-165-196.sjvls.org!not-for-mail From: "Kent Paul Dolan" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,misc.misc Subject: Universal access to threaded news readers, NOT (was): periodicity Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Message-ID: <5175c6ca907482fb3a29448c5b2f8d82.48257@mygate.mailgate.org> References: <4f13319b766a72c7ae2531d5c399bdca.48257@mygate.mailgate.org> <5ee5b646.0203182132.752d6b18@posting.google.com> <3cd9b572a0b9f2d8b2459674bacef4b6.48257@mygate.mailgate.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66-122-165-196.sjvls.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.mailgate.org 1016640542 22674 66.122.165.196 (Wed Mar 20 18:48:43 2002) X-Complaints-To: abuse@mailgate.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Injector-Info: news.mailgate.org; posting-host=66-122-165-196.sjvls.org; posting-account=48257; posting-date=1016640542 User-Agent: Mailgate Web Server X-URL: http://mygate.mailgate.org/mynews/comp/comp.lang.ada/5175c6ca907482fb3a29448c5b2f8d82.48257%40mygate.mailgate.org Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:21494 misc.misc:5831 Date: 2002-03-20T17:48:43+00:00 List-Id: "David Starner" wrote in message news:a78nip$8q61@news.cis.okstate.edu... > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:26:49 +0000 (UTC), Kent Paul Dolan wrote: > > Ah, yes, the old "I've got great technology, so the devil take the > > hindmost" argument. > > Um, yeah. slrn is a half megabyte binary, that can probably be run on a > 386 running Minix. It handles this newsgroup just fine. If you can't > find a newsbrowser capable of handling this newsgroup, you need to look > harder. And if you are marginally competent in English, using a computer you inherited from a defunct international aid foundation, your technology is, oh, say readnews(), because that's what came in the box, and you are just getting into computers for the first time, so the idea of downloading and upgrading software is completely foreign to you, all this availability of threaded newsreaders helps you exactly how? xanthian. Trust me, the world is _not_ what you see on your desktop. One of my former friends refurbishes "closet clutter" computers for the handicapped (he designs, constructs, and fits prostheses as his day job, it was a natural hobby/volunteer effort choice for him); again, on a zero budget, he isn't going to be going out and getting spiffy new software for his 8086-class computers, and his beneficiaries are very likely stuck with what they find in the box. The Clovis, California Senior Citizens' Center, behind which I sleep on the sidewalk, is still running computers with Microsoft Project Manager as their operating system for their publically accessible computers used by seniors there. Whenever you assume that a high tech capability exists everywhere, 1) you are lying to yourself, and 2) you are thereby excluding _someone_ with the choices you make based on an unrealistic model of the universe. As a separate issue, many places even in the first world, people pay for their computer access by the kilobyte, and download newsgroups in off hours, making them extremely volume sensitive. Splitting a newsgroup is also of great benefit to these people. At least half of comp.lang.ada would go in an advocacy group in most of the other language groups (I take a bow for having invented the *.advocacy concept with comp.sys.amiga.advocacy back in the early 1990's) and for these volume sensitive readers, being able to exclude that one group would cut their usage charges to read this group in half. -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG