From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,cc3c5a58c46ea9c4 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Received: by 10.67.4.201 with SMTP id cg9mr2495406pad.45.1364345018740; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Path: q9ni25860pba.1!nntp.google.com!npeer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.astraweb.com!border2.newsrouter.astraweb.com!newspeer1.nac.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!feeder1.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!216.40.29.245.MISMATCH!novia!border4.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.glorb.com!dotsrc.org!filter.dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:56:17 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_L=F8cke?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130308 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Runtime startup code for the GNAT Runtime...and a bit of humble pie. References: <21ad4ef7-0e4a-40ba-ac3f-fe21018c7bd9@googlegroups.com> <1b0r595r7mo50.5ixrxomanvxr$.dlg@40tude.net> <7dbb0f14-c059-45ab-9eda-2782cb3edcc3@googlegroups.com> <87wqszl77j.fsf@adaheads.sparre-andersen.dk> In-Reply-To: <87wqszl77j.fsf@adaheads.sparre-andersen.dk> Message-ID: <514d8a51$0$32109$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Organization: SunSITE.dk - Supporting Open source NNTP-Posting-Host: 77.234.175.34 X-Trace: news.sunsite.dk DXC=J@<9K`KAcaDhAD6WOTE2YEYSB=nbEKnkKcij>0W=Tf=O1GQX8;5?CnG4?9@NPjj3?O7nJo6CZ9QYDaP@cn[8J3cHd< On 03/22/2013 05:39 PM, Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote: > My main worry is if Dart and a browser is really more robust than a > GtkAda or QtAda application. Our funding customer for the project is > confident that Dart and a browser is at least sufficiently robust. And > they like/want the separation in core services (Ada server), user > interface looks (HTML) and user interface implementation (Dart). > For sure it isn't a more "robust" solution, but it is _much_ simpler to get going on multiple platforms. Getting a GtkAda/QtAda application up and running on everything ranging from Windows XP/Vista/7/8 (32/64), OS X, Linux and *BSD is probably no simple feat. Getting Firefox/Chrome to run on all those operating systems is dead simple. With Dart Google is pushing towards a more sane development environment for the web. So far the result is very nice. Sure it is still a bit rough around the edges, but it's already much better than the insanity that is JavaScript. When you find yourself doing stuff like this: var userList = new List(); and you then have Dart yelling at you if you try to add something else than a User to the userList, then you know that web-programming is moving in the right direction. Or how about a typedef: typedef void Subscriber(Map json); No more bouncing around a billion unknown callbacks! You can actually give these puppies a name and a signature. Very nice. The days of assigning random shit to random shit are finally coming to and end in web-programming. -- Thomas L�cke | thomas@12boo.net | http://12boo.net