From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fc89c,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc89c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: patrick@broadvision.com (Patrick Horgan) Subject: Re: What's the best language to start with? [was: Re: Should I learn C or Pascal?] Date: 1996/09/04 Message-ID: <50iunc$arm@ns.broadvision.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 178539175 references: <4vroh3$17f@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> organization: The quite unorganized Patrick reply-to: patrick@broadvision.com newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-09-04T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <4vroh3$17f@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>, ok@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au (Richard A. O'Keefe) writes: > IMP 77. They observed that the operating system modules written by > people skilled in assembly language (and who even went to the extreme > of checking the assembly code produced by the compiler to make sure it > was efficient) tended to be > - bigger, > - less readable, and > - SLOWER > than that produced by people who had a "high level language" perspective. > I'll try to remember to bring the paper in tomorrow so I can quote it > exactly. You don't state any conclusion from this, but I might imply that you think that somehow this is an implication that people that have an assembler language background are bad programmers in high level languages. I hope you quote the paper in somewhat more detail, because I'd like to know how much experience they had as programmers. Generalizing from one small pool of people with assembly language skills to any conclusions about the relative worth of knowing or not knowing assembler, or whether people with those skills do or do not write good code is suspect logically. -- Patrick J. Horgan patrick@broadvision.com Have horse will ride. Opinions mine, not my employer's except by most bizarre coincidence.