From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,3e070dca458e63a6 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Received: by 10.180.100.74 with SMTP id ew10mr2726346wib.7.1358771529325; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 04:32:09 -0800 (PST) Path: i11ni11150wiw.0!nntp.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!uucp.gnuu.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool3.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:32:02 +0100 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: More Ganssle on Ada References: <90d941f8-4e9f-485d-b2f6-89627d69ac79@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Message-ID: <50fd3543$0$6548$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Jan 2013 13:32:03 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 40d4b8fe.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=9efYSf4O3me]BlmkiiU@Bi4IUKjLh>_cHTX3jmOg[>b8eZ0>n X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 2013-01-21T13:32:03+01:00 List-Id: On 19.01.13 15:19, Robert A Duff wrote: > Patrick writes: > >> ...is Ada only for life critical applications? Adacore seems to think >> so. > > Why do you say so? AdaCore builds all sorts of non-safety-critical > stuff in Ada. Compilers come to mind. I guess the point is that the article doesn't say so. Rather, the interviewees talks about niches for Ada, tools, high integrity and other thing *not* part of AdaCore's compiler (sadly); they suggest it is wise to *not* consider Ada where other languages are chosen. Well, if you want people to listen to what you have to say about that old DoD government failure, doing the above might do the trick. They list some technical reasons for not choosing Ada. These include presence of libraries, or availability of web servers, richer than a specialized thingie like AWS, I should think - hey, when would you tell anyone to stop using J2EE because there is AWS and be considered sane? Or some "embedded" equivalent of Java for mobile devices? Or not use Objective-C when there is no Objective-Ada yet? If you feed on consultancy, a vague praise of everything, showing openness to other language choices, surely expresses experience, and the right attitude, both PR-wise and strategically, since if Ada consultants want to have a foot in the door (or want less prejudiced readers, in Ganssle's case), then shouting and denigration don't usually help. A win-win situation.