From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fc89c,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc89c,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: system@niuhep.physics.niu.edu Subject: Re: What's the best language to start with? [was: Re: Should I learn C or Pascal?] Date: 1996/08/30 Message-ID: <507ktv$nli@corn.cso.niu.edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 177496308 references: <31FBC584.4188@ivic.qc.ca> <01bb83f5$923391e0$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com> <4uah1k$b2o@solutions.solon.com> <01bb853b$ca4c8e00$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com> <4udb2o$7io@solutions.solon.com> <01bb8569$9910dca0$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com> <4urqam$r9u@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> <01bb8b84$200baa80$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com> <4vbbf6$g0a@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> <01bb8f18$713e0e60$32ee6fce@timhome2> <4vroh3$17f@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> <01bb9360$21d0dbe0$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com> <503bq0$js@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> organization: NIU Physics Dept. reply-to: system@niuhep.physics.niu.edu newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-08-30T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: "Larry J. Elmore" writes: > >Richard A. O'Keefe wrote in article ><503bq0$js@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>... >> Prioritising the thousand things we need to teach, to students >> is not easy. >I believe Tim was referring to qualified students actually ready for >college, Richard. >The problem is not with the colleges, it is with the public school >system from elementary to high school. >(It strikes me as incredible that >the only proposed remedy not ridiculed by the mass media and politicians >calls for handing even more money and power over to the very system Being a bleeding heart liberal I generally listen to NPR rather than the mass media. As such I have heard of several possible remedies, a number of which are being tried out with the support of politians. I certainly believe that children _should_ be educated in the basics before they come to college. The reasons they are not are multisided and can not all be laid at the doorstep of the public education system. Robert >Larry J. Elmore Morphis@physics.niu.edu Real Men change diapers