From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,3025dd6d917b499c X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Received: by 10.180.106.102 with SMTP id gt6mr3176109wib.0.1350352503943; Mon, 15 Oct 2012 18:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Path: q10ni65138159wif.0!nntp.google.com!feeder3.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!94.232.116.11.MISMATCH!feed.xsnews.nl!border-1.ams.xsnews.nl!border3.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.panservice.it!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.datemas.de!feed.cnntp.org!news.cnntp.org!uucp.gnuu.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool1.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:00:15 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada, the best language with the not-so-best tool chain References: <38af7fb8-b0a4-4a31-87aa-b7b698cc89c3@googlegroups.com> <3ca0ffd0-1764-484b-8fab-17c0d2dd9463@googlegroups.com> <1f645050-cf4c-40bf-a797-9687b69e4a54@googlegroups.com> <18ats2960nsvm$.kfufsnul13aq$.dlg@40tude.net> <5072c9ae$0$6562$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <4keoa6epdxt7.1nnwxy7v7ar90.dlg@40tude.net> In-Reply-To: <4keoa6epdxt7.1nnwxy7v7ar90.dlg@40tude.net> Message-ID: <5072dc68$0$6554$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 08 Oct 2012 16:00:08 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: d8ec161f.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=Ik8O0]BS5h>NTD55K=4IUK:Lh>_cHTX3j=`[8BQ:3o;24 X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 2012-10-08T16:00:08+02:00 List-Id: On 08.10.12 15:00, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > If you were a vendor of microwave herds, I bet you would have money to buy > a license from AdaCore. You could even afford developing an Ada 2012 > compiler from scratch. (:-)) Does AdaCore offer a run-time system for one of the low cost �controllers? Such as the ones offered by Freescale, Atmel, ...? I know there is some effort to make GNAT an option on AVR, but nothing mature so far, and surely not as convenient as the alternatives that are packed with low cost boards. http://sourceforge.net/p/avr-ada/wiki/Status/ So either look for one of the other Ada compilers, or have some vendor write a run-time system, or write one yourself. That's not for small shops, I should think. Ada is a bit pricey, in comparison. http://www.irvine.com/special.html http://www.ghs.com/products/rtos/AdaMULTI_bare_board.html On a managerial scale, estimating costs might show that porting a compiler/writing a run-time system is well in reach of a big-budget project (providing for long-term profit). But still, I bet that they will call a manager an idiot if he/she suggests any of this given the inexpensive, field-proven alternatives. They'd see of huge risk associated with non-standard (a.k.a. non-lemming) solutions: failure can easily be ascribed to the non-standard solution, whatever the real causes are.