From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,9983e856ed268154 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.66.77.1 with SMTP id o1mr105476paw.29.1345115948430; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 04:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Path: s8ni1567pbk.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool2.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:18:28 +0200 From: Georg Bauhaus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Should Inline be private in the private part of a package spec? References: <501bd285$0$6564$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <50203ca2$0$9512$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <502040c0$0$9510$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <50677fa2-7f82-4ccc-8c56-161bf67fefe1@googlegroups.com> <44bb5c96-a158-41c1-8e7d-ae83b2c0aca1@googlegroups.com> <1mchat48i3fos.1ksbz02nuzf5f$.dlg@40tude.net> <502b832f$0$6579$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <502bc4df$0$6574$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <502bd3e6$0$6574$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <17qgsq5y7or0v.16z18fmcew1lt$.dlg@40tude.net> <502c149e$0$6579$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <502cd701$0$6568$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> Organization: Arcor NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Aug 2012 13:18:25 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 747df6af.newsspool3.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=Vn:]?0Dk1UK2:OR3:3gaE@McF=Q^Z^V3H4Fo<]lROoRA8kF_5CCM><;Onc\616M64>JLh>_cHTX3jMiDhHnS3 On 16.08.12 09:30, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:29:01 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > >> On 15.08.12 20:53, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > >>> And how does it make car's devices homogenous? >> >> Homogeneous by all important points of view, see below. > > Which points are as relevant to the car electronic infrastructure > homogeneity as the gravitational constant is. Otherwise, see: > > http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/homogeneous+network > >>> And >>> how these false premises could justify any application of XML even if per >>> some miracle they happened true? >> >> The point of the exercise is to make apparent the variables >> that help decide when, and when not, to use XML, > > List of the variables, please. They were given in the text, and even indicated syntactically. I had hoped that someone with a PhD in mathematics would find this a fair read, even when the subject matter might look strange at first sight. There may be some correlations among the variables, and as usual one cannot approach a complex subject empirically without multivariate analysis of everything that will drive decisions. > Good luck driving "systems", but, incidentally, the only thing that you > could actually sit into and steer is that pesky car full of "perceived" > electronics. Yes, so what. Back to the subject matter. > How is the choice XML vs., say, CANopen motivated by specifically > homogeneity? By a homogeneity that I have outlined when talking about measures of sameness, in the context of the situation, which is full of motives. > What is homogenous by XML, which is not by other protocols, and conversely? XML is not a protocol, but that's an aside. I did not say anything about XML being a measure of homogeneity other than maybe that XML, if chosen, can be one means of tackling heterogeneity of data in situations outlined. I think I'm not going to be sidetracked this time. > Which weight has the above [quantitative? qualitative?] difference in the > context of the requirements, functional and non-functional, imposed on the > car software infrastructure? Yes, as I said, apply fuzzy logic, and doing so stipulates that the persons involved can produce weights that work. Actually, I am sure they have done so many times.