From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,bdc41aa5ff8e1d93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Dale Stanbrough Subject: Re: Programmers -> Engineers; Engineers -> Programmers Date: 1996/08/15 Message-ID: <4v09hv$78q@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 174844442 distribution: world references: <1996Aug8.115630.4568@relay.nswc.navy.mil> <4uobbm$n7t@hacgate2.hac.com> <4uol55$mhq@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <4uv3m8$guu1@red.interact.net.au> content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 x-xxmessage-id: organization: RMIT, Melbourne, Australia mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-08-15T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Jack W Scheible writes: "In _my_ experience, people who major in Computer Science tend to be dullards; if they were not, they would have majored in EE. There is nary an engineering curriculum in the country that does not require programming, and nary a Computer Science curriculum that requires engineering classes." Probably flame bait, but here goes. The presumption that the contents of an entire discipline can be learnt as an adjuct to another course in a "by the way, here's how to program" manner is rather amazing. Students in our double degree computer science/computer systems engineering course are _not_ dullards. They often remark on how much better the programming information is from computer science. Similarly the manufacturing systems engineering students who are based on the same campus as me, comment on how lacking some of their computing experiences have been (they are not taught by us). Jack's "in _my_ experience" reminds me of "i've never been so insulted!", "you should get out more". Jack, you really need to get out more. Dale