From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fc89c,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc89c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: seebs@solutions.solon.com (Peter Seebach) Subject: Re: What's the best language to start with? [was: Re: Should I learn C or Pascal?] Date: 1996/08/03 Message-ID: <4u19gq$f1g@solutions.solon.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 171931842 references: <31FDFB6C.2781E494@att.com> <01bb8023$4bfe7a80$96ee6fcf@timhome2> organization: Usenet Fact Police (Undercover) reply-to: seebs@solon.com newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-08-03T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <01bb8023$4bfe7a80$96ee6fcf@timhome2>, Tim Behrendsen wrote: >Yes, but if they don't even know what hexadecimal is (or by extension >the fundamentals), do they *really* understand what an abstract data >type is, or what call by reference means? I'm sure they could quote >the book definition, but do they really *understand* it? Certainly. Knowing hex won't buy you anything WRT abstract data types. Knowing the bottom half of the machine might help you understand the *mechanics* of call by reference. It would not help you understand the *implications*. You can explain the implications easily using metaphors, and most students will quickly grasp why these operate differently. -s -- Peter Seebach - seebs@solon.com - Copyright 1996 - http://www.solon.com/~seebs Unix/C Wizard - send mail for help, or send money for consulting! The *other* C FAQ, the hacker FAQ, et al. See web page above. Unsolicited email (junk mail and ads) is unwelcome, and will be billed for.